johnso29

I hope as much as it takes to kill off the mistake that is DPA.

GunshipGuy

Johnso, what would an alternative to ALPA look like to you for it to be a worthy replacement? And please don't reference DPA.

hitimefurl

Yes and I've asked my reps about each and every one of these. We already saw the six figure secretaries debunked by Council 20 in an update last year provided to me by C66 secretary. The recently promoted C66 rep has been to the high and mighty compound in D.C and it's not some swanky K Street condo, it's a used car dealership that was converted into living space in a not so great part of town. The guy needs a place to sleep. I don't expect him to move. I think he's doing a better job than the last 3. Was the NYC meeting expensive? Sure was. i hate buying beer in NYC but it doesn't stop me from buying my cheapskate captain a real pint of Guinness when he doesn't want to spend any of his money on real beer. Other than the SLI meetings (Delta paid for those) I don't think there's been a meeting in NYC over 10 years? One expensive meeting for the purposes of signing JV stuff. Angry? Notsomuch... Would I rather they stayed in Brooklyn or Flatbush? Yes. The way I understand it is that booze is available. It's not forced upon anyone and they don't pay for it if no one drinks it. If you're telling me that our reps are hopeless alcoholics then it's a different issue. These guys are pilots and I expect them to act like pilots and not like someone they aren't. If they get the occasional beer while working thensobeit. Don't they pay dues too? I expect them to treat their own dues money like I'd treat mine. Every dollar spent is a dollar the Delta pilots get back. They had to vote to refund the last money to us. It wasn't just being generous.

I'm satisfied with the answers I've had from the Tom in NY and the Tom in DTW, whom I met on a JS. We got back over $7,000,000 in dues last year. I'd say that's good fiduciary management and not back slapping Tail Hook (you know what I'm talking about) style booze cruises off the FL Key's. Irresponsible spending and a $7 million refund don't belong in the same sentence. You can't squander dues and then turn around and return that much money, it would be impossible! We've got hundreds of volunteers. That **** costs money. Let's spend it when we need to and spend it on the right things.

johnso29

Right now I simply don't see one. ALPA has roots in DC, and I think they're crucial. I'm simply not willing to roll the dice on a union that will need CAPA to lobby for them. Politics control the world, and $$$ controls politics. I don't like it, but I can't change it either.

There are many other reasons, but this is probably the biggest for me right now.

Scoop

Guys,

I just reviewed the distribution of flying and SCs in our category and once again it looks pretty good. Pilots in red are in RAW bucket 2.

Seniority RAW SCs
81XX 27 3
83XX 73 2
83XX 93 3
88XX 90 4
95XX 44 4
98XX 88 5
98XX 91 0
99XX 59 5
102XX 64 4
104XX 89 2
110XX 71 3
111XX 73 2

I have done this about 4 times in off months and in the summer. Every time it has shown a pretty good distribution of flying.

Like I said before - if the system is unduly burdensome on the junior Pilots - lets fix it. But with numbers like this, I think it will be hard to justify changing the system.

I am sure that guys out there are getting hosed on an individual basis - but I don't think its systematic. I would like to see some other guys post their categories if it shows the junior guys getting hosed - I have not seen it.

Scoop

GunshipGuy

Fair enough. So it's not really about DPA, but any other entity coming in to replace ALPA for you, right? You should be making a case why we should keep ALPA rather than negative DPA comments, because no other union is an option for you.

hitimefurl

How do you say positive things about ALPA here without being called a koolaid guzzling ALPA cheerleader?

scambo1

Everyone, from donut eating singing sister to koolaid guzzling Alpa apologist knows ALPA does good things. It is not a tough crowd here IMO, most posters are self policing and try to speak the truth. It is when the spin comes that names get flung.

Name calling from either side is ineffective and actually diminishes the credibility of the poster.

So far, for a koolaid guzzling Alpa apologist, I think you are doing a pretty solid job.

hitimefurl

I already failed. It's apologist not cheerleader? I guess the pics on the last few pages confused me. Touche good sir, touche.

GunshipGuy

My category (88) uses reserves pretty quickly so I thought it would be more useful just to show what the top four guys did compared to the bottom four guys (approximately; avoided guys with vacation). Obviously RAW doesn't always paint the complete picture as evidenced below.

84XX 84 RAW 5 GS (13 days of GS)
94XX 140 RAW 2 GS (7 days of GS)
94XX 123 RAW 5 GS (15 days of GS)
99XX 132 RAW 3 GS (8 days of GS. Note: one of those GS was an "A" which is defined on the help page as "Assignment"....not sure if that pays 2X or not).

116XX 175 RAW No GS
116XX 177 RAW No GS
117XX 163 RAW 1 GS (1 day)
117XX 153 RAW 2 GS (2 days. Again, one of these days was actually coded as an "A").