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08-16-2013, 08:48 AM
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Does submitting a yellow slip to fly still only reduce your RAW score by 15 or did that change? Thanks,
Denny
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08-16-2013, 09:23 AM
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Take a family of 4 and you're at $3000.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000.
To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time.
What are you laughing about? On time?
A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress.
But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000.
To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time.
What are you laughing about? On time?
A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress.
But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story.
08-16-2013, 10:25 AM
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Flying is not a right. The traveling public has to get the notion out of their heads that they DESERVE inexpensive, safe travel. It costs money to fly. The last 10 years we(airline employees) subsidized their cheap family vacations.
Take a family of 4 and you're at $3000.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000.
To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time.
What are you laughing about? On time?
A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress.
But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000.
To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time.
What are you laughing about? On time?
A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress.
But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story.
08-16-2013, 10:32 AM
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08-16-2013, 11:05 AM
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. No, actually it will only affect your RAW if you are awarded a trip. And of course a yellow slip means they can assign you anything they want.
08-16-2013, 01:07 PM
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Take a family of 4 and you're at $3000.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000.
To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time.
What are you laughing about? On time?
A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress.
But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story.
Gas from ATL-DC (647 miles) is about 22 gal each way or 44 round trip. At $3.4/gal gas (GA numbers, SC is sooo much better) is about $73 one way or $146 round trip or $36 per a family of 4 instead of $750. Or $146 vs $3000.
To T's point about time. It's a 9:30 drive. It's a 1:46 block flight. But you need to be there 1 hour early. Plus no less than 30 minutes to park. I've got a 1 hour drive there. Say 1 hour on the backside to get to downtown DC. You're at 5:15 if the flight is on time.
What are you laughing about? On time?
A few weeks ago we took a little over 9 hours to take a 1:45 minute flight from RIC-ATL. It'd been quicker to drive and we wouldn't have been dragging a 4 and 2 year old through the airport at 1am. And frankly given how that went even with our travel benefits we now as a family plan to fly to my familys and drive back. It was not worth the stress.
But that's with a family. Business traveler, different story.
08-16-2013, 01:44 PM
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08-16-2013, 04:11 PM
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The cost is not just gas. The gov mileage rate is north of $.45/mile. That is depreciation, maintenance, etc. A better comparison would be a taxi service. Professional transportation, government certified with commercial vehicle,etc. Plus add travel time; how valuable is your time (or your employees) in spending their time on the road versus flying. Much better comparison.
08-16-2013, 04:13 PM
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08-16-2013, 05:42 PM
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The cost is not just gas. The gov mileage rate is north of $.45/mile. That is depreciation, maintenance, etc. A better comparison would be a taxi service. Professional transportation, government certified with commercial vehicle,etc. Plus add travel time; how valuable is your time (or your employees) in spending their time on the road versus flying. Much better comparison.
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