Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Or, were they already allowed and being constructed and are now at least paying more (4, 8.5) than before?
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Or did the survey demand 3-day trips worth 10:30?
Here's a 3 day Central American trip that pays 10:30. I have 4 next month.
LAX PILOT 7ER *** ROTATION OPER
L487 POS-AB EFFECTIVE JUL14 CHECK IN AT 23.01
ON DUTY
DAY FLT T DEPARTS ARRIVES C BLK M/U TURN M EQP ACT/MAX
14 457 LAX 0001 GUA 0550 4.49 757 6.19/ 9.00
GUA 23.40/EL HOTEL DE LOS PILOTOS 4.49BL
FAR DUTY TIME 6.19 4.49TL
15 458 GUA 0700 LAX 1057 4.57 6.27/12.30
4.57BL
4.57TL
0.39TRP
0.05DPA
REGULAR--10.30TL 9.46BL 0.44CR 0.00MU
RESERVE- 10.25TL 9.46BL 0.39CR 0.00MU
UGH!!!
Baja.
LAX PILOT 7ER *** ROTATION OPER
L487 POS-AB EFFECTIVE JUL14 CHECK IN AT 23.01
ON DUTY
DAY FLT T DEPARTS ARRIVES C BLK M/U TURN M EQP ACT/MAX
14 457 LAX 0001 GUA 0550 4.49 757 6.19/ 9.00
GUA 23.40/EL HOTEL DE LOS PILOTOS 4.49BL
FAR DUTY TIME 6.19 4.49TL
15 458 GUA 0700 LAX 1057 4.57 6.27/12.30
4.57BL
4.57TL
0.39TRP
0.05DPA
REGULAR--10.30TL 9.46BL 0.44CR 0.00MU
RESERVE- 10.25TL 9.46BL 0.39CR 0.00MU
UGH!!!
Baja.
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I flew were the 10hr OGG and GUA... I hated them but then just got used to them! Especially all the guns in GUA on the streets and shady characters running around! But the food at that tree house place was good and it was cheap!!! Just wear running shoes and zig zag all the way back to the hotel!!!
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we will never, ever vote down a TA or realize our full earnings potential.
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Last edited by johnso29; 08-15-2013 at 01:11 PM.
Now.. Please explain how getting paid 12.5 percent more for the same trip that was allowed by the previous contract, negates the time value of money?
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It's one heck of a fantasy world at ALPA, where the company makes--and is forecast to improve upon--record profits; yet ALPA buys into the manufactured panic, and pushes a rushed concessionary contract.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
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It's one heck of a fantasy world at ALPA, where the company makes--and is forecast to improve upon--record profits; yet ALPA buys into the manufactured panic, and pushes a rushed concessionary contract.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
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It's one heck of a fantasy world at ALPA, where the company makes--and is forecast to improve upon--record profits; yet ALPA buys into the manufactured panic, and pushes a rushed concessionary contract.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
2. Yes, the 12.5% does overcome the profit sharing. The profit sharing was monetized and accounts for about 2% of the entire 19.7ish % increase in compensation (notice I didn't say raise as some will quickly point out its a pay restoration for those that were here for the cuts, of which I am not one). This year is going to be close to "worst case" if you want to call it that, in that the company is going to be near $2B in profits. At 2.5B the company gains the max advantage of the monetization of profit sharing. The flip side, which will surely come someday is that even if delta doesn't make a penny, we still keep the part we monetized.
As an aside, there was talk of not having the 4 hour carve out for ADG. This likely would have resulted in the 73N categories closing in LAX, as the trips would have been credit heavy and Carmen would have seen fit to build the rotations from other bases. Better to have the carve out and maintain the LAX basing for our pilots? Or "show some spine" and end up with a bunch of displaced/commuting pilots?
It's one heck of a fantasy world at ALPA, where the company makes--and is forecast to improve upon--record profits; yet ALPA buys into the manufactured panic, and pushes a rushed concessionary contract.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
It's better than fantasy for the company. It's beyond their wildest dreams.
p.s. does your 12.5% figure include the huge profit sharing chunk we gave up? Of course not.
Actually, the 12.5% does include the "huge profit sharing chunk" we gave up.
So what's the problem????
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