Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-14-2013, 05:07 AM
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The results of that poll have been analyzed and will be presented to the MEC this week in SEA. They will then decide how to proceed. All of this is academic until the next time we engage the company anyways, because the company is under no obligation (and would almost certainly decline) to change the bucket sizes to allow more seniority on RSV, as it makes us less efficient as a group. The SOT can make recommendations to the company, but it would probably be ignored unless we ask them for smaller buckets - which many see as a concession.
08-14-2013, 05:17 AM
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UPS A300 crash at BHM:
2 pilots killed in UPS jumbo cargo plane crash near Alabama airport | Fox News
2 pilots killed in UPS jumbo cargo plane crash near Alabama airport | Fox News
08-14-2013, 05:31 AM
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UPS A300 crash at BHM:
2 pilots killed in UPS jumbo cargo plane crash near Alabama airport | Fox News
2 pilots killed in UPS jumbo cargo plane crash near Alabama airport | Fox News
To the extent that flight aware is accurate ...
Time....... Course ....KTS..MPH..Altitude.. Rate
05:45AM 178° South 248 285 2,500 -420 Descending
05:46AM 178° South 200 230 1,800 -540 Descending
05:47AM 188° South 191 220 1,500 -300 Descending
Without looking at the charts, runway 18 is just under 7,100 feet long, figure ~ 5,600 roll out on a damp surface. Early reports indicate the aircraft was a half mile short (on the North side) of runway 18. Perhaps a slight quartering tail wind with winds reported "variable." Non precision approaches to RWY 18; RNAV GPS & LOC available to 18.
Condolences to family, friends and co-workers.
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08-14-2013, 05:39 AM
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I believe you have to "Bid" those days under PCS in I Crew. That bid will be run with all others (WS, YS, PS, etc). They will not just show up on your schedule.
You can also "save" those days, add a few more, then bid all those days off. But you must use them before the end of the year (lesson I learned).
You can also "save" those days, add a few more, then bid all those days off. But you must use them before the end of the year (lesson I learned).
Was bored, so I looked it up. And it's the thing I did a while back.
I Crew
- Schedules
- PCS
- Leave Requests
- Payback Days
* then click "Add/ Update Leave Request" at the bottom.
08-14-2013, 05:49 AM
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This only applies to "banked" payback days from a previous bid month. If you are on reserve and get payback days from a GS the PB days are put on your next reserve days. If you don't have any reserve days left in the bid month then they are banked to be bid later.
08-14-2013, 06:07 AM
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Scoop,
I looked forward one page and didn't see this addressed, so here's my $0.02: You're making iaflyer's point (and mine): So what if the junior guy is at the end of the list at the end of the month? That would mean no one senior to him flew enough to get into bucket 2! So what if he's at the end of the list after only working 7 days???? That means the guys who didn't get into bucket 2 flew less or none. Does it really pain a senior guy that they may have to fly, but end up not flying?
GG
I looked forward one page and didn't see this addressed, so here's my $0.02: You're making iaflyer's point (and mine): So what if the junior guy is at the end of the list at the end of the month? That would mean no one senior to him flew enough to get into bucket 2! So what if he's at the end of the list after only working 7 days???? That means the guys who didn't get into bucket 2 flew less or none. Does it really pain a senior guy that they may have to fly, but end up not flying?
GG
GG,
First off, I don't think we are too far apart. I do not - repeat, do not want a system that enables the senior guy to routinely take a month off if the junior guy is working his butt off.
I don't mind a system where the senior guy gets an easier month (RAW 15) and the junior guy gets an easy month (7 days working, bucket 2 from the above example).
Are you saying its not fair that the senior guy gets a very easy month and the junior guy only gets an easy month?
Secondly, I hope this will shortly become a mostly academic argument as continuous movement starts (after being stalled at the bottom half of the list for 12 years) and no one stays junior on reserve more than a month or two in the NB FO position, which is really the only positions system-wide where being junior is not a choice.
Scoop
08-14-2013, 06:14 AM
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GG,
First off, I don't think we are too far apart. I do not - repeat, do not want a system that enables the senior guy to routinely take a month off if the junior guy is working his butt off.
I don't mind a system where the senior guy gets to take the month off if the junior guy only works 7 days of the month. (above example).
Secondly, I hope this will shortly become a mostly academic argument as continuous movement starts (after being stalled at the bottom half of the list for 12 years) and no one stays junior on reserve more than a month or two in the NB FO position, which is really the only positions system-wide where being junior is not a choice.
Scoop
First off, I don't think we are too far apart. I do not - repeat, do not want a system that enables the senior guy to routinely take a month off if the junior guy is working his butt off.
I don't mind a system where the senior guy gets to take the month off if the junior guy only works 7 days of the month. (above example).
Secondly, I hope this will shortly become a mostly academic argument as continuous movement starts (after being stalled at the bottom half of the list for 12 years) and no one stays junior on reserve more than a month or two in the NB FO position, which is really the only positions system-wide where being junior is not a choice.
Scoop
Cheers
George
08-14-2013, 06:20 AM
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08-14-2013, 06:23 AM
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Hey Buzz, can you TEVO the Tebow Show for me? 
I've got to go to Dubai tonight so I'll miss the Pats-Bucks preseason game. I just want to see if Tebow can throw, and the Bucks have a new kid at sencond QB as well, I'd like to see what he's got.
Should be interesting but I'll miss it. Friday night, 8pm east:
Patriots host Buccaneers in 2013 Preseason home opener
I've got to go to Dubai tonight so I'll miss the Pats-Bucks preseason game. I just want to see if Tebow can throw, and the Bucks have a new kid at sencond QB as well, I'd like to see what he's got.
Should be interesting but I'll miss it. Friday night, 8pm east:
Patriots host Buccaneers in 2013 Preseason home opener
08-14-2013, 06:25 AM
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Out of curiosity Bar, or anyone, say an airplane pancakes into the runway or ground flat with the mains out, what kind of vertical speed descent rate would be fatal? I think airplanes have landed at 1600 fpm before?
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