Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-13-2013, 07:55 AM
The Brown Dot +1
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By the way, trip parking is back in my category. You need 3 guys instead of 2 due to the A and B crews.
I did okay last year, but am taking it easy this year. Just pretty much flying the line that I get. Green slips are virtually non existent.
08-13-2013, 07:55 AM
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Just like UAL back in 2000. But since AMR is in bankruptcy reorganization, this has more serious consequences for them. The whole plan, the aircraft orders, all based on this deal happening. Wonder how much those Latin America routes would cost?
08-13-2013, 07:57 AM
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They'll give them to swa.
08-13-2013, 07:57 AM
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I don't see it the same way, Johnso. In my category a senior lineholder works 9-10 daytime turns per month for 80 hours of pay. A junior lineholder works back side of the clock and 18 days to make the same 80 hours. Seniority is honored. According to the Reps in the lounge, seniority on reserve doesn't matter nearly as much as under our current bucket system everyone is flying similar amounts.
To me that is a good example of how an equal sharing of flying between senior and junior reserve pilots in a seniority based system doesn't quite make sense. Senior lineholders can usually fly fewer days for the same amount of pay as the most junior lineholder that works more. Why would/should it be different for reserve? And to all please note the key word "equal" sharing. I am not advocating for no work vs all the work.
I am also not so sure that we are going to see the "sit and do nothing" all month that some categories have seen in the recent past during the slow months. As FTB mentioned, and as I have seen in my own category, they have trimmed the ranks of reserve pilots. Not saying it won't happen to a guy or two, but I have a feeling it won't be as wide spread as it was before. Time will tell with that one, especially if we get short staffed with retirements, 717/737 deliveries, etc. and hiring doesn't keep up.
08-13-2013, 08:00 AM
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and do you know what's just as good as a campaign contribution?
"I'm going to hand you a list of my family and friends you should hire at American in your department for Community Relations. $125k pay plus beneies is a good start, $300k if youd like the merger approved. And im sure youre fine if they only show up never. or just for social engagements or meetings at resorts."
"I'm going to hand you a list of my family and friends you should hire at American in your department for Community Relations. $125k pay plus beneies is a good start, $300k if youd like the merger approved. And im sure youre fine if they only show up never. or just for social engagements or meetings at resorts."
08-13-2013, 08:02 AM
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And btw, I'm with everyone who says the buckets and SC need to be coupled. I'm 100% on board with that. But the guys who complain about seniority and reserve will have the same argument about that happening because they'll be stuck sitting on and flying the SCs. They'll be right back to saying we need to honor seniority on SC.
And therein lies the conundrum. How do you somewhat honor seniority while distributing flying and short calls amoungst reserves......
How to merge the SC situation in with the buckets and amount of flying is the tricky issue IMHO.
08-13-2013, 08:05 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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or is SWA and DAL making sure AMR/LCC divests in a way favorable to them and not Spirit or JB?
08-13-2013, 08:10 AM
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Regarding the picking up of white slips: Sometimes it is a case of "you don't know what you don't know."
Maybe the individual drops trips they don't like and then WS to fill in their schedule. They may be, for various reasons, below the GS trigger. Or maybe they want a certain type of trip/report times/etc. etc. and can't usually get a GS or don't want to wait/hope for one that meets their criteria.
A friend of mine is constantly dropping trips/swapping trips and picking up new ones via WS to fill in his schedule.
Who knows. Lots of different variables to make any sort of blanket statements regarding it.
Maybe the individual drops trips they don't like and then WS to fill in their schedule. They may be, for various reasons, below the GS trigger. Or maybe they want a certain type of trip/report times/etc. etc. and can't usually get a GS or don't want to wait/hope for one that meets their criteria.
A friend of mine is constantly dropping trips/swapping trips and picking up new ones via WS to fill in his schedule.
Who knows. Lots of different variables to make any sort of blanket statements regarding it.
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08-13-2013, 08:15 AM
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CNBC is reporting the DOJ will file suit against AMR and USAir to block the merger.
US gov't seeks to block AMR-US Air merger
US gov't seeks to block AMR-US Air merger
Interesting.
But to echo what others have said it would not suprise me to see a decision like that based on corruption or greasing of palms or consultant "no show" deals, or anything else of that nature.
08-13-2013, 08:33 AM
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I'm a guessing that the AMR/USAir guys weren't as proactive as RA in getting all the govt players to explicitly tell them what divestitures and conditions would get this thing to slide thru..
And I wouldn't put it past the DAL govt guys (or SWA, or JB, or whomever...Franke even) to have thrown a wrench into the mix to get slots pushed their way
IMO, this will get done, but a few more hoops will be put in place for them to jump through.
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