Originally Posted by flyallnite

Imagine if this was a US carrier. We are one vote away from this happening as long as we prevent foreign ownership and cabotage.



Norwegian considers basing long-haul division in Ireland
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By: MICHAEL GUBISCH LONDON 04:17 7 Aug 2013 Source:

Norwegian is applying for a permanent Irish air operator's certificate for its new long-haul division, as the Scandinavian low-cost carrier prepares for the first intercontinental deployment of its Boeing 787 on 15 August.

The Irish Aviation Authority has issued a temporary AOC for Norwegian's long-haul arm, which launched on 30 May, with two wet-leased Airbus A340s, and operates flights to New York's JFK airport and Bangkok. But that certificate - which is being used to operate the airline's 787s - will expire by year-end.

Now, the Oslo-based carrier is "in the process" of applying for a permanent AOC in Ireland to be able to employ international crew members. The airline wants to recruit flight attendants from Thailand, which would not be possible if the aircraft were registered at home as Norwegian law prohibits the employment of staff from outside the European Economic Area.

The carrier has international pilots, but the flightcrew need to be employed on Norway-based terms and conditions. This would also become more flexible under Irish regulations.

Norwegian says that it would like to operate all aircraft from Norway, but the country's strict rules and regulations prevent it from competing against other carriers with fewer limitations. The carrier adds that it had been considering different countries to its long-haul division, including Sweden, before it eventually opted for Ireland.

Also under consideration is relocation of the long-haul division's headquarters to Ireland, as it would not be legally possible for a Norway-based airline to permanently operate aircraft under another country's AOC. The carrier insists, however, that the licence transfer to Ireland applies only to the long-haul division and not the group's short-haul mainstay.

The first of eight 787-8s ordered by Norwegian was delivered at the end of June. The aircraft has been deployed on European routes for pilot familiarisation.

Norwegian is planning to employ the type on Stockholm-Bangkok route for the first time on 15 August. The aircraft is scheduled to fly to New York the next day.

Originally Posted by flyallnite

Imagine if this was a US carrier. We are one vote away from this happening as long as we prevent foreign ownership and cabotage.



Norwegian considers basing long-haul division in Ireland
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By: MICHAEL GUBISCH LONDON 04:17 7 Aug 2013 Source:

Norwegian is applying for a permanent Irish air operator's certificate for its new long-haul division, as the Scandinavian low-cost carrier prepares for the first intercontinental deployment of its Boeing 787 on 15 August.

The Irish Aviation Authority has issued a temporary AOC for Norwegian's long-haul arm, which launched on 30 May, with two wet-leased Airbus A340s, and operates flights to New York's JFK airport and Bangkok. But that certificate - which is being used to operate the airline's 787s - will expire by year-end.

Now, the Oslo-based carrier is "in the process" of applying for a permanent AOC in Ireland to be able to employ international crew members. The airline wants to recruit flight attendants from Thailand, which would not be possible if the aircraft were registered at home as Norwegian law prohibits the employment of staff from outside the European Economic Area.

The carrier has international pilots, but the flightcrew need to be employed on Norway-based terms and conditions. This would also become more flexible under Irish regulations.

Norwegian says that it would like to operate all aircraft from Norway, but the country's strict rules and regulations prevent it from competing against other carriers with fewer limitations. The carrier adds that it had been considering different countries to its long-haul division, including Sweden, before it eventually opted for Ireland.

Also under consideration is relocation of the long-haul division's headquarters to Ireland, as it would not be legally possible for a Norway-based airline to permanently operate aircraft under another country's AOC. The carrier insists, however, that the licence transfer to Ireland applies only to the long-haul division and not the group's short-haul mainstay.

The first of eight 787-8s ordered by Norwegian was delivered at the end of June. The aircraft has been deployed on European routes for pilot familiarisation.

Norwegian is planning to employ the type on Stockholm-Bangkok route for the first time on 15 August. The aircraft is scheduled to fly to New York the next day.

Originally Posted by newKnow

Ok. I just came across a record for me. I see someone using a buddy pass from a June 1938 hire. Wow.

I've flown with the #1 FA, but I thought he was hired in the 1940's. Who has him beat?

Originally Posted by UncleSam

It could be a retiree. They get buddy passes too. Assuming they were hired at 18, that would make them 93 years old.

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

THIS^^^^

This is why PAC is so important. We are only protected from this kind of shenanigans as long as our lawmakers don't do something stupid. ALPA and ALPA PAC are our best, and arguably only defense, against this and other similar threats.

If you're not concerned, you're not paying attention. Cabotage, foreign ownership, foreign basing of operations, etc are all knocking on the door. Whether you favor ALPA or not, you need to be paying attention and contributing to the PAC. It's the only influence we have in a very large game - and even that might not be enough.

The whole RJ conflict of interest pales in comparison to what's happened at Quantas. PM me if you want to talk in person about what we are trying to do to combat this. You can't afford to sit on the sidelines while this is being hashed out.

Originally Posted by Dorfman

Sink. Thanks for the answer, I ended up looking in the contract and talking to scheduling. You can do a PD and white slip as a regular pilot. You can not do an APD and WS.

Who thought reading the contract could teach you something.

Originally Posted by sinca3

PAC being used? Surprised no one has mentioned this:

Outspoken NASA Official, Obama Ally Lori Garver to Leave Post - WSJ.com

Originally Posted by sinca3

PAC being used? Surprised no one has mentioned this:

Outspoken NASA Official, Obama Ally Lori Garver to Leave Post - WSJ.com