Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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FWIW, the FA's are great and all, but as an FO it is nice to have them stay somewhere else and not have the "sonny, my bags ...", "the pilots used to buy us (drinks/dinner/entertainment)", the once in a while getting hit on by someone 25+ years older than my wife and pure drama of whatever domestic disaster has befallen their (partner/spouse/cat/kid). Delta's FA's are mostly responsible, professional and friendly. If you've flown for an airline where you (the pilots) have to babysit ... you really appreciate the fact that Delta's cabin crew are self reliant, responsible, professional and friendly adults.
Doesn't that only apply if you are going into a golden day off? I though SC could go beyond noon if you are just going into a normal x day.
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Yep ... with the new FTDT Delta will "optimize" reroute opportunities. In some ways lineholders will be like reserves... bid the days off you want and SC periods because with the hard limits all airlines are going to have to do some quit and dirty juggling during IROPS.
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After all, nothing's changed in the last 15 years.
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Originally Posted by Scoop
9. A short call pilot:
........
44 f. will be released from on-call duty not later than 1200 base time on his last on-call day
45 prior to a hard non-fly day.
From the current Live contract
Scoop
Yes - that is what it means by "hard non-fly day." Golden days, MIL LV,
Vacation on the subsequent day will trigger a noon release.
A regular X day does not trigger a noon release.
Scoop
Originally Posted by Scoop
9. A short call pilot:
........
44 f. will be released from on-call duty not later than 1200 base time on his last on-call day
45 prior to a hard non-fly day.
From the current Live contract
Scoop
Yes - that is what it means by "hard non-fly day." Golden days, MIL LV,
Vacation on the subsequent day will trigger a noon release.
A regular X day does not trigger a noon release.
Scoop
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Well, ALPA finally addressed DPA head on. The most disapointing thing in their latest missive was this one:
Since the DPA repeatedly states their “(i)nfluence (will be) used solely for Delta pilot mandates,” it may be they are unclear that the organization they wish to join, CAPA, represents mostly pilots in competition with Delta pilots, and many of those fly regional jets. This would appear to support the idea of a national professional organization like ALPA.
Doesn't ALPA represent pilots that are in direct competition with us? and doesn't ALPA also most represent regional pilots?
Why did that memo sound like it came from the White House press room?
Since the DPA repeatedly states their “(i)nfluence (will be) used solely for Delta pilot mandates,” it may be they are unclear that the organization they wish to join, CAPA, represents mostly pilots in competition with Delta pilots, and many of those fly regional jets. This would appear to support the idea of a national professional organization like ALPA.
Doesn't ALPA represent pilots that are in direct competition with us? and doesn't ALPA also most represent regional pilots?
Why did that memo sound like it came from the White House press room?
You think those youtube hits are bad. Search wheel of fortune clam digger. BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IT COULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE TO WATCH. The expression on the contestants as well as pat sajak's face is priceless. Obviously the contestant seems hesitant to give a letter.
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Well, ALPA finally addressed DPA head on. The most disapointing thing in their latest missive was this one:
Since the DPA repeatedly states their “(i)nfluence (will be) used solely for Delta pilot mandates,” it may be they are unclear that the organization they wish to join, CAPA, represents mostly pilots in competition with Delta pilots, and many of those fly regional jets. This would appear to support the idea of a national professional organization like ALPA.
Doesn't ALPA represent pilots that are in direct competition with us? and doesn't ALPA also most represent regional pilots?
Why did that memo sound like it came from the White House press room?
Since the DPA repeatedly states their “(i)nfluence (will be) used solely for Delta pilot mandates,” it may be they are unclear that the organization they wish to join, CAPA, represents mostly pilots in competition with Delta pilots, and many of those fly regional jets. This would appear to support the idea of a national professional organization like ALPA.
Doesn't ALPA represent pilots that are in direct competition with us? and doesn't ALPA also most represent regional pilots?
Why did that memo sound like it came from the White House press room?
But we already knew that.
It's one of the juiciest red herrings to be sure, because we are all mad about the (self-inflicted) RJ outsourcing problem, so the DPA would have you believe that it wouldn't feel like we have to work with those groups after we got rid of ALPA. But CAPA deals with them, ALPA deals with them, and it's generally better that way.
Just doesn't feel better.
The root of the problem is the fact we got drunk one decade or so, and fathered all these little RJ groups. We wish we didn't, but we did. Now they're in the family. Kicking them out of the house doesn't delete their presence, or lessen their danger to us.
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Well, ALPA finally addressed DPA head on. The most disapointing thing in their latest missive was this one:
Since the DPA repeatedly states their “(i)nfluence (will be) used solely for Delta pilot mandates,” it may be they are unclear that the organization they wish to join, CAPA, represents mostly pilots in competition with Delta pilots, and many of those fly regional jets. This would appear to support the idea of a national professional organization like ALPA.
Doesn't ALPA represent pilots that are in direct competition with us? and doesn't ALPA also most represent regional pilots?
Since the DPA repeatedly states their “(i)nfluence (will be) used solely for Delta pilot mandates,” it may be they are unclear that the organization they wish to join, CAPA, represents mostly pilots in competition with Delta pilots, and many of those fly regional jets. This would appear to support the idea of a national professional organization like ALPA.
Doesn't ALPA represent pilots that are in direct competition with us? and doesn't ALPA also most represent regional pilots?
Surely they realize whatever post-ALPA lobbying association Delta pilots join (or form) will immediately gain a massive amount of money, and thus, influence.
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