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Old 08-01-2013, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I was rerouted twice today due to a shortfall in the ATL M88B category. When you look at reserves required and available, it's typically around 50/25 about 5 days out, ten 55/0 the day or two prior. The 717 transition has drawn a lot of pilots out and leadership has failed to appropriately plan ahead for the summer schedule.

17 green slips awarded so far today & still counting. This is a weekday and the beginning of the month too!
You were a victim of our Airborne Reserve System (ARS). Since it costs the same, and is quicker than shortcall, it is the best solution. Our reroute section of the contract is on the failboat. Any idea what SWA guys get for reroute compensation? I do.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
You were a victim of our Airborne Reserve System (ARS). Since it costs the same, and is quicker than shortcall, it is the best solution. Our reroute section of the contract is on the failboat. Any idea what SWA guys get for reroute compensation? I do.
It also, in effect, takes seniority out of the bidding process.
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:58 PM
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Our "everybody manning" compensation system with no premium pay or penalty to the company is a contract section we need to work on. It's one of those things that I never really thought of until this last month because we have always been overstaffed since I have been here. New bid strategy in summer will be to award latest shows with earliest finishes and least TAFB to minimize the reroutes.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Unfortunately as long as OPs is not cancelling flights due to lack of pilots, the company will continue to figure they are correctly manned. GS are still cheaper then another pilot on the list.
Which is why we're hiring?
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
It also, in effect, takes seniority out of the bidding process.

This was part of the reason I was a no voter. Makes it hard to plan around kids events, etc when you're effectively on reserve during your trip with no regard for seniority.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Oh yeah first month in quite a few where I didn't get a new seniority number.
It's nice to watch my number move up but I can't hold what I was holding 3 years ago. Whoopity doo.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Our "everybody manning" compensation system with no premium pay or penalty to the company is a contract section we need to work on. It's one of those things that I never really thought of until this last month because we have always been overstaffed since I have been here. New bid strategy in summer will be to award latest shows with earliest finishes and least TAFB to minimize the reroutes.
Based on how negotiations went regarding the reserve portion of our contract I'd prefer our negotiators stay away from discussing any changes to the PWA regarding reroutes. They'll only make it worse. But we'll be told how great the changes are and it didn't cost us that much in negotiating capital.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy
Based on how negotiations went regarding the reserve portion of our contract I'd prefer our negotiators stay away from discussing any changes to the PWA regarding reroutes. They'll only make it worse. But we'll be told how great the changes are and it didn't cost us that much in negotiating capital.
With this much faith in the current union, it's no wonder why people are bailing like rats of the titanic.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamer
With this much faith in the current union, it's no wonder why people are bailing like rats of the titanic.
3 plus years of campaigning, barely any money, and still haven't approached the NMB? I don't think that qualifies as bailing like rats off the titanic.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
I called scheduling and they said that the trip will go to the 3 day bucket person regardless of seniority or yellow slip because I'm in the 6 day bucket.
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As far as I can tell from reading the PWA, yellow slips are supposed to trump availability buckets.

Perhaps I'm missing something?
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