Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-30-2013, 06:37 AM
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There used to be an exemption to the ADA rules for commuter carriers. The aisle chair doesn't fit down the aisle. There was no way to remove people down the stairway, either.
I think there is some serious bs going on in this story. No one lets a man crawl across the tarmac. Still, the damage is done from a PR standpoint.
I read the article this morning and many of the comments raised the BS flag, too.
I think there is some serious bs going on in this story. No one lets a man crawl across the tarmac. Still, the damage is done from a PR standpoint.
I read the article this morning and many of the comments raised the BS flag, too.
07-30-2013, 06:45 AM
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Would love them to be on the same page. Seems like everyone is on the same page with 30 A321s and 10ish A330s with a few mentioning 2 773s added to the mix. Whether its wrong or right everyone seems to be saying it. Hiring seems to be bipolar though.
Speaking of aircraft orders, Airbus and Boeing must go mad dealing with Delta. On the one hand a carrier or two from the Middle East will walk in and buy 300 over whatever they got with every option with ease. We walk in and haggle over 30 NBs and 10 WBs for years.
07-30-2013, 07:02 AM
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Delta cannot replace the loss of 150-180 50 seat ASM's on an equal basis with only about 40-50 of the 76's that will be at DCI by that point. Yes there is an increase of seats in the 76's, but the reduced total airframes means the number of segments beyond 900SM is reduced, and the short segments the 50's flew still need to be served, additionally, the 717's will be poaching the "heavier" routes that 76's used to operate, pushing more RJ's onto less productive (by ASM) city pairs.
[B]Glen Hauenstein Executive Vice President of Marketing, Network Planning & Revenue Management
Well, we started to retire 50-seat equipment, and we're accelerating that as we get to the third and fourth quarter. That will -- the continuation, we will continue to have reductions in regional equipment. That is mostly being replaced by existing equipment. But as we get into the third and fourth quarters, we begin to take deliveries of the 717s. The 717s will start to replace a lot of the 76-seaters, which will replace the 50-seaters. So think of it as kind of a reverse cascade in terms of gauge. And as Richard mentioned and Ed mentioned, the actual fleet number despite -- will be down about 2% despite the fact that capacity is up 2% (note: down in first half 2013, up 2% in last half 2013 and +1% overall). And that will not only provide a better product for our customers, but some cost relief or cost assistance as the gauge continues to increase.
Well, we started to retire 50-seat equipment, and we're accelerating that as we get to the third and fourth quarter. That will -- the continuation, we will continue to have reductions in regional equipment. That is mostly being replaced by existing equipment. But as we get into the third and fourth quarters, we begin to take deliveries of the 717s. The 717s will start to replace a lot of the 76-seaters, which will replace the 50-seaters. So think of it as kind of a reverse cascade in terms of gauge. And as Richard mentioned and Ed mentioned, the actual fleet number despite -- will be down about 2% despite the fact that capacity is up 2% (note: down in first half 2013, up 2% in last half 2013 and +1% overall). And that will not only provide a better product for our customers, but some cost relief or cost assistance as the gauge continues to increase.
Separate question, I know there's some long domestic routes where we like to use 763ERs, I wonder if as the 757s cycle out we'll see a lot more of that and new 330s take the 763ERs place? Because I'm not up to speed on the 76ER fleet but didn't they stop some of the retrofitting of crew rest facilities and winglets?
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07-30-2013, 07:05 AM
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Need a room at Dtw to catch morning flight. Westin says they don't have a delta discount for pilots. Anyone know how to get a good price there or where a close place is?
07-30-2013, 07:19 AM
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I like the Holiday inn Express airport, its right next to some good restaurants, and its a nice newly renovated hotel with hot breakfast. Seems like most people go to the Clarion though to save $5 but the food there is awful and the rooms are gross.
07-30-2013, 07:26 AM
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Like I mentioned, in CQ I was seriously told 300 was just a start to a massive wave and then the next day told not so much. It's just interesting not everyone seems to be on the same page.
Would love them to be on the same page. Seems like everyone is on the same page with 30 A321s and 10ish A330s with a few mentioning 2 773s added to the mix. Whether its wrong or right everyone seems to be saying it. Hiring seems to be bipolar though.
Speaking of aircraft orders, Airbus and Boeing must go mad dealing with Delta. On the one hand a carrier or two from the Middle East will walk in and buy 300 over whatever they got with every option with ease. We walk in and haggle over 30 NBs and 10 WBs for years.
Would love them to be on the same page. Seems like everyone is on the same page with 30 A321s and 10ish A330s with a few mentioning 2 773s added to the mix. Whether its wrong or right everyone seems to be saying it. Hiring seems to be bipolar though.
Speaking of aircraft orders, Airbus and Boeing must go mad dealing with Delta. On the one hand a carrier or two from the Middle East will walk in and buy 300 over whatever they got with every option with ease. We walk in and haggle over 30 NBs and 10 WBs for years.
Buyers never look and lookers never buy.
07-30-2013, 07:51 AM
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There used to be an exemption to the ADA rules for commuter carriers. The aisle chair doesn't fit down the aisle. There was no way to remove people down the stairway, either.
I think there is some serious bs going on in this story. No one lets a man crawl across the tarmac. Still, the damage is done from a PR standpoint.
I read the article this morning and many of the comments raised the BS flag, too.
I think there is some serious bs going on in this story. No one lets a man crawl across the tarmac. Still, the damage is done from a PR standpoint.
I read the article this morning and many of the comments raised the BS flag, too.
07-30-2013, 08:11 AM
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Does it seem odd to anyone else that the bid results are taking so long to be published for such a small bid? Seems like the are usually out within a day
07-30-2013, 08:25 AM
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IMO, it will have a bunch of unfilled positions. Unless someone wants to get to a specific base, what motive would there be for anyone to bid the 717b position. There is more benefit to be MDed into the category.
07-30-2013, 08:33 AM
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Delta cannot replace the loss of 150-180 50 seat ASM's on an equal basis with only about 40-50 of the 76's that will be at DCI by that point. Yes there is an increase of seats in the 76's, but the reduced total airframes means the number of segments beyond 900SM is reduced, and the short segments the 50's flew still need to be served, additionally, the 717's will be poaching the "heavier" routes that 76's used to operate, pushing more RJ's onto less productive (by ASM) city pairs.
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