Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-30-2013, 04:55 AM
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There is a scene in Apollo 13 where the engineers and astronauts have to make a quick calculation. Every time I watch it, I know the lesson to be learned from that incident is that we need more engineers. Ie., more wiz kids who love math and numbers.
FTB, if you weren't lured away by the shiny gold buttons (that I heard attract European women
), I'm sure you would be working for NASA right now. 
Ode to FTB:
FTB, if you weren't lured away by the shiny gold buttons (that I heard attract European women
), I'm sure you would be working for NASA right now. Ode to FTB:
07-30-2013, 04:58 AM
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Kingfisher?
I know we like used and abused but
Kingfisher Airlines?s 15 leased planes may land in scrapyards - The Times of India
I know it's not the 321s but not sure if anything they touched would be something to get.
I know we like used and abused but
Kingfisher Airlines?s 15 leased planes may land in scrapyards - The Times of India
I know it's not the 321s but not sure if anything they touched would be something to get.
07-30-2013, 04:58 AM
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Kingfisher?
I know we like used and abused but
Kingfisher Airlines?s 15 leased planes may land in scrapyards - The Times of India
I know it's not the 321s but not sure if anything they touched would be something to get.
I know we like used and abused but
Kingfisher Airlines?s 15 leased planes may land in scrapyards - The Times of India
I know it's not the 321s but not sure if anything they touched would be something to get.
07-30-2013, 05:05 AM
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07-30-2013, 06:18 AM
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Great post. At this point in time mainline has done nothing but shrink since the merger. I'll believe the 717's and 739's are growth when our fleet actually grows.
All I know is the ink has been dry on this contract for over a year and we have fewer pilots than we did a year ago.
80 (additional) airframes + retirements starting = 300 pilots needed, something doesn't add up?
All I know is the ink has been dry on this contract for over a year and we have fewer pilots than we did a year ago.
80 (additional) airframes + retirements starting = 300 pilots needed, something doesn't add up?
07-30-2013, 06:19 AM
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Right again, and what do YOU think SD means when he stated in the same update you see the "300" that the "number of pilots hired can and likely will change"?
07-30-2013, 06:21 AM
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More bad press from a connection carrier.
A partially paralyzed man is suing Delta Airlines, claiming he was forced to crawl on and off his flights and across the tarmac because he wasn't provided with the equipment he needed to board and exit the plane, according to a complaint.
D. Baraka Kanaan, 40, of Haiku, Hawaii, filed the suit in U.S. District Court in Hawaii against Delta Airlines and 20 of the carrier's employees and agents. The suit, filed on July 23, seeks damages after he endured "intense physical and extreme emotional suffering" from the ordeal.
In the suit, Kanaan said the airline subjected him to "appallingly outrageous treatment" both on his flight to Nantucket, Mass., on July 27, 2012 and on his flight back to Maui, Hawaii, two days later.
A partially paralyzed man is suing Delta Airlines, claiming he was forced to crawl on and off his flights and across the tarmac because he wasn't provided with the equipment he needed to board and exit the plane, according to a complaint.
D. Baraka Kanaan, 40, of Haiku, Hawaii, filed the suit in U.S. District Court in Hawaii against Delta Airlines and 20 of the carrier's employees and agents. The suit, filed on July 23, seeks damages after he endured "intense physical and extreme emotional suffering" from the ordeal.
In the suit, Kanaan said the airline subjected him to "appallingly outrageous treatment" both on his flight to Nantucket, Mass., on July 27, 2012 and on his flight back to Maui, Hawaii, two days later.
07-30-2013, 06:25 AM
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07-30-2013, 06:32 AM
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The fleet plan, aircraft delivery schedules and aircraft park and retirement plans are all posted in various locations on Deltanet and are accessible from a work computer. The latest revision that I looked at was dated 6/13/13 and showed a net increase of 80 mainline airframes by 12/31/15. It didn't include the 11 EVA/Uni MD-90's. There were 50 739 and 88 B717 deliveries against 17 DC-9-50 and 41 B757 retirement/lease returns.
I also agree with FTB that the number of announced hired is low....but I believe that it is far, far more, and that the company is going to make an announcement every few months adding to that number, but never make a "big announcement", in keeping with the desire to appear nimble and strategic to the investments community.
Delta cannot replace the loss of 150-180 50 seat ASM's on an equal basis with only about 40-50 of the 76's that will be at DCI by that point. Yes there is an increase of seats in the 76's, but the reduced total airframes means the number of segments beyond 900SM is reduced, and the short segments the 50's flew still need to be served, additionally, the 717's will be poaching the "heavier" routes that 76's used to operate, pushing more RJ's onto less productive (by ASM) city pairs.
DCI will be down a minimum of 5580 seats at the end of the 717 deliveries (I'm not doing the math on a July 2015 snapshot, call it 80% of that if you want...whatever).
Where is the official announcement on EVA 90's? I don't put anything into rumors, I gotta see SEC statements or press releases. Sorry Slow, where ya been anyway?
07-30-2013, 06:33 AM
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Here's the thing, do we as a group want to see us have a net growth of 80 jets before you count in 30 321s and 10ish 330s? YES!
Do we want to see us hiring like crazy? Yes!
Do we want to see massive year-over-year capacity growth?! YES!
Is that Delta's modus operandi? No. Not at all.
So to me it's one of two things;
Do we want to see us hiring like crazy? Yes!
Do we want to see massive year-over-year capacity growth?! YES!
Is that Delta's modus operandi? No. Not at all.
So to me it's one of two things;
A) We're not growing capacity, net growing the fleet and hiring like mad because these orders are replacement jets for the most part and if we only netted 30 airframes or so that's just a few hundred pilots in growth and with ALV+15 and other changes maybe it's status quo outside of retirements. 
or
B) Delta management is going to change its philosophy and we're going to sneak attack something! Don't know what though, remember when we talked DFW but now you look at DFW and there's not a gate open in E. And Wall Street might not like a change in philosophy but then who cares if we own the world!
We'll wait and see. or
B) Delta management is going to change its philosophy and we're going to sneak attack something! Don't know what though, remember when we talked DFW but now you look at DFW and there's not a gate open in E. And Wall Street might not like a change in philosophy but then who cares if we own the world!
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