Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-25-2013, 06:48 PM
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.................If ALPA is to gain the critical mass needed to become the world's pilot labor Goliath, the "wealth" of the Delta pilot (our flying) has to be spread out more equitably. If ALPA were to just come out and say that, what would be your response? You'd want blood and ALPA knows it. Thus the game of language where ALPA appears to continually get "beaten".
This symbiotic relationship is currently working for both ALPA and management, albeit for different goals and outcomes.
Carl
This symbiotic relationship is currently working for both ALPA and management, albeit for different goals and outcomes.
Carl
07-25-2013, 06:49 PM
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Yeah, there's an awful lot of *'s on that list of cities. Good thing our customers prefer flying mainline...you know, 70 seats and above.
Break break---from three weeks ago:
ALPA: We think you guys need to hire. The peasants...er, pilots are getting a little reckless and threatening to break up our consortium.
MGT: Argh, another waste of money. How many would pacify them?
ALPA: Could you go 500?
MGT: We'll hire 50.
ALPA: How about 400?
MGT: Tell you what. We'll bring back the bypasses, add 100 new pilots, and make it sound like 300 in a well-crafted email. In return, you start prepping them to give us relief on the Atlantic JV. Or, we could increase mainline flying to comply.
ALPA & MGT: Ah, ha ha ha, ah, ha ha ha, good one! (Much knee slapping occurs)
ALPA: No, that sounds good. We will get an email out in the next two weeks. You guys still plan to be out of compliance in the Pacific, too, right?
MGT: Yes, and remember, you already agreed to sell that to the masses.
ALPA: We know, we know, working it already.
MGT: Come up with one of those graphs with a large y-axis scale so everything looks flat and fair. Those usually fool them.
ALPA: Funny you should mention it. That's our plan for the JV prep email.
MGT: Excellent...more cognac?
ALPA: Why yes sir, don't mind if I do.
Break break---from three weeks ago:
ALPA: We think you guys need to hire. The peasants...er, pilots are getting a little reckless and threatening to break up our consortium.
MGT: Argh, another waste of money. How many would pacify them?
ALPA: Could you go 500?
MGT: We'll hire 50.
ALPA: How about 400?
MGT: Tell you what. We'll bring back the bypasses, add 100 new pilots, and make it sound like 300 in a well-crafted email. In return, you start prepping them to give us relief on the Atlantic JV. Or, we could increase mainline flying to comply.
ALPA & MGT: Ah, ha ha ha, ah, ha ha ha, good one! (Much knee slapping occurs)
ALPA: No, that sounds good. We will get an email out in the next two weeks. You guys still plan to be out of compliance in the Pacific, too, right?
MGT: Yes, and remember, you already agreed to sell that to the masses.
ALPA: We know, we know, working it already.
MGT: Come up with one of those graphs with a large y-axis scale so everything looks flat and fair. Those usually fool them.
ALPA: Funny you should mention it. That's our plan for the JV prep email.
MGT: Excellent...more cognac?
ALPA: Why yes sir, don't mind if I do.
07-25-2013, 07:33 PM
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07-25-2013, 07:56 PM
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Nose first
Just read on NBCNews.com that SWA that landed in LGA landed nose first. NTSB said it was releasing factual information. I hope they use caution and wait before anymore is released. These things have a tendency in cyber land to shoot first. Was it a gust? Control issue? Forcing it down to to float? Will be interesting to see what happened but hope the NTSB uses caution.
07-25-2013, 08:29 PM
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Just read on NBCNews.com that SWA that landed in LGA landed nose first. NTSB said it was releasing factual information. I hope they use caution and wait before anymore is released. These things have a tendency in cyber land to shoot first. Was it a gust? Control issue? Forcing it down to to float? Will be interesting to see what happened but hope the NTSB uses caution.
Fig. Some of our old coworkers sent me a vid. Check your PM's. Definitely not a normal landing!!! Should be interesting to see the flight data recorder re-creation when it's released.
07-25-2013, 08:32 PM
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Go on down the page here to the Safety thread. A few pages back, there's a report from an eye witness pilot taxiing out who said they ballooned and then came down nose wheel first. Ouch!
07-25-2013, 09:34 PM
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As a 73 guy, they f'd up. Pushed over because they got slow and hit the NG first. I hate LGA but its not unbearable or undoable. We go into lots of other fields that get my attention a lot more than LGA. SNA, Key West, etc. Put the Mo Fo down and, no, not nose gear first.!
07-25-2013, 09:43 PM
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"Poles" show that NYC mayoral candidate Anthony Wienir has peaked too early and no longer has the "stiff, firm resolve" to remain a viable entrant in the race. His campaign is "petering" out.
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Kids don't let kids sext their junk....you either Brett Favre.
07-25-2013, 10:00 PM
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