Originally Posted by Jughead

Seek and ye shall find.



Pilot unionization became a sore point for management, and they created a dedicated FAR Part 125 Certificate that could operate without unionized pilots. Eventually, all of the contracts held by the company were passed along to others. Those marketplaces were observed to change over time, even as other airlines took over ZIA contracts. The remaining aircraft were sold off, save a handful, and eventually the airline lost business momentum. Its operating certificate and FAR 121 Air Carrier Certificate, once deemed highly valuable, was given back to the FAA in beginning years of the new millennium, as was the FAR 125 Certificate. It was then that Zantop International Airlines ceased operations, and their aging but excellent aircraft were marketed elsewhere.

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

Thanks, Denny. Just to kill this dead horse, how about an example. Let's say ALV is 82 hours. So resv guarantee is ALV - 2 = 80 hours. You fly the trips you get and wind up with 82.00 or greater with so many days left on the current month.

So if you don't "call in full" what's the risk? To answer my own question, they call you with a trip or give you a SC by mistake (or some would say by "mistake.") You then either A: answer the call or see it on your schedule and have to deal with correcting the issue, i.e. get out of the trip because you've flown all you were required to fly, B: Ignore it because you know you're done for the month, but then suffer the @** pain of straightening (talking to more people or the CPO) out the confusion/problems that resulted from this mistake, or C: fly the assigned trip because you either didn't know any better or wanted to make some more money.

Or avoid it all and call in full. Is this about right?

Originally Posted by elvis90

i always call the schedulers and have them manually put "full" on my schedule so they won't bother me anymore.

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

Thanks, Denny. Just to kill this dead horse, how about an example. Let's say ALV is 82 hours. So resv guarantee is ALV - 2 = 80 hours. You fly the trips you get and wind up with 82.00 or greater with so many days left on the current month.

So if you don't "call in full" what's the risk? To answer my own question, they call you with a trip or give you a SC by mistake (or some would say by "mistake.") You then either A: answer the call or see it on your schedule and have to deal with correcting the issue, i.e. get out of the trip because you've flown all you were required to fly, B: Ignore it because you know you're done for the month, but then suffer the @** pain of straightening (talking to more people or the CPO) out the confusion/problems that resulted from this mistake, or C: fly the assigned trip because you either didn't know any better or wanted to make some more money.

Or avoid it all and call in full. Is this about right?

Originally Posted by Jughead

Seek and ye shall find.



Pilot unionization became a sore point for management, and they created a dedicated FAR Part 125 Certificate that could operate without unionized pilots. Eventually, all of the contracts held by the company were passed along to others. Those marketplaces were observed to change over time, even as other airlines took over ZIA contracts. The remaining aircraft were sold off, save a handful, and eventually the airline lost business momentum. Its operating certificate and FAR 121 Air Carrier Certificate, once deemed highly valuable, was given back to the FAA in beginning years of the new millennium, as was the FAR 125 Certificate. It was then that Zantop International Airlines ceased operations, and their aging but excellent aircraft were marketed elsewhere.

Originally Posted by UncleSam

In your example of flying to 82 (ALV) if your next day is a RES day, then the FULL should show up on your schedule as soon as the last trip is complete. However, if you have several X-days following the trip that took you to 82+ (even 80+), then the FULL will not show up immediately, unless you call them. There have been some mistakes by schedulers where they put you on SC when you were FULL but a trip will not go on your line. When they start assigning trips for your first day of RES after you are FULL, then the computer will recognize that you are FULL. Clear?

Originally Posted by Elvis90

I always call the schedulers and have them manually put "FULL" on my schedule so they won't bother me anymore.

Originally Posted by redship

It is my understanding that a Compass flow gets a seat in class with no questions asked but a Mesaba flow is required to meet the Delta mins. If this is true does anyone know how many of the 108 Mesaba flows qualify? I am guessing there are a few without a four year degree.