Bugger... so do I stay at the bottom on the 88 bouncing between bases and wait until I can get back into MSP, or try for the DTW 717 and suck up two years commuting there (again)? If only they would tell us if an MSP 717 cat was on the horizon...

Tough call. But a MSP DTW commute is probably painful.

07-20-2013, 08:32 AM

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That's the wild card... being over 200 below that bottom of the base, I'm not sure I can make up much ground unless they choose to add slots again. The CAPT slots on 717 and 73 could help move folks out of the base ahead of me, but I don't think they will really expand or add MD-88 positions there as they hire. Then again, I'm new and haven't seen what happens to categories when there is hiring. I barely snuck in over the last bit of hiring.

Growth is why Delta had wide body lineholders in their first 14 months on property. I think we are going to see marginal growth and we are going to like it a lot.

These displacement bids force everyone into a stove piped seniority solution. Once growth starts folks will bid their preferences, which is just all over the place.

Lets see if there are any announcements towards the end of the month that change your views. (not that I know anything, but if a guess was ventured about announcements, it might coincide with earnings reports or Board of Director's meetings. ALPA's also got a big meeting scheduled in Seattle and while ALPA doesn't have any scoop that I know of these things do seem to work out conveniently)

07-20-2013, 08:34 AM

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It would seem once we begin hiring you could hold MSP MD88 in very short order. I've heard no talk what so ever about a 717 base in Minneapolis. For one thing, the inlets let too much snow in.

I wish I still had the source, but I did read early on network was looking at a possible NYC or MSP 717 base in the distant future (after DTW and ATL are fully running), but that was a long time ago...

07-20-2013, 08:36 AM

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So NYC 88 .... is the most junior base?

07-20-2013, 08:39 AM

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I would wait and see. I think you have a better chance of getting back into MSP by staying on the 88. With bids every 60 days now and hiring, I would wait a year and see how the movement is for you.

07-20-2013, 08:42 AM

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So NYC 88 .... is the most junior base?

As of now I believe so. But the 717 categories have a lot of growing to do, and I wouldn't be surprised if ATL 717 or DTW 717 end up being the junior category.

07-20-2013, 08:42 AM

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Hey! I know! If we peel the red, white and then the green paint off, there's this underneath!

Anyone make vinyl wrap for airplanes?

07-20-2013, 08:43 AM

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I would wait and see. I think you have a better chance of getting back into MSP by staying on the 88. With bids every 60 days now and hiring, I would wait a year and see how the movement is for you.

I second this. With the M88 time increasing and hiring happening, I would think you have a chance of getting back to MSP soon.

07-20-2013, 08:49 AM

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As of now I believe so. But the 717 categories have a lot of growing to do, and I wouldn't be surprised if ATL 717 or DTW 717 end up being the junior category.

Thank ya!

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