Originally Posted by Elcid93

I'm trying to understand this system of flowthroughs and guaranteed interviews, but in the words of "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer", it "frightens and confuses me."

From the Compass section on this website...
Delta will offer employment to an eligible Compass pilot before any other pilot candidate for hire in seniority order. To be eligible, a Compass pilot must: (1) be a Captain; and (2) have at least 30 months on payroll.
Unless waived by Delta & Compass, the max number of Compass pilots flowing up to Delta will be the lesser of: (1) 25% of total Compass pilots in any rolling 12-months, or (2) 20 per month.

So according to this site, Compass has 439 pilots. 25% would be 110 pilots in 12 months. The lesser of the two would be roughly 9-10 a month versus 20.

I can't imagine Compass would let everybody who is eligible go as soon as there is a class. Especially with the increase in ATP mins, who will replace them? "Unless waived by Delta & Compass" seems to be their loophole. Any chance Compass tells Delta, "we can't afford to let these guys go just quite yet."? Who ensures both parties are holding up to this agreement?

If I'm misunderstanding this, please explain it. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Originally Posted by workingforfree

Could mean more street hiring than some are thinking

Which is what I heard Delta prefers anyway. I have heard they are not very fond of the flow agreements anyway-- not flaming, just saying what was out there is all.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I'm sure you meant "meet the competitive minimums."

Originally Posted by scambo1

In related news, Cory Monteith was found dead.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Is Compass over staffed by chance?

Originally Posted by bohicagain

From a historical standpoint Compass has more FO's on the list then in previous years. As of the July seniority list Compass has 446 pilots for 42 airplanes. 218 CA and 228 FO

Compass used to run with 400 pilots with 42 airplanes back in 2011

In 2010 the same contract language existed and they also planned on 300 new hires They took 20 a month so I expect the same this time around.

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

Your demographic? What percentage of "angry people" demographic is there at Delta?

GJ

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

so they're somewhat ready?

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

hey man, I'm not angry. I'm not a pessimist, either. I'm an idealist, and I get spun up when we should be making significant gains, but can't or won't. When our pay and benefits are completely butchered by incompetent, greedy, and/or lazy buffoons who are supposed to be looking out for the Delta line pilot--but who certainly aren't. When we send good money away from our pilot group, only to be wasted by a bloated bureaucracy, and gifted to groups trying to undercut us. Thus, my utter disdain for ALPA.

I'm just tired of ALPA whizzing on our backs and telling us it's raining. That's the company's job--not "our" "union's."

The company is making billions, and we settled for 4/8/3/3 and massive giveaways. But we did get to slide the bidding window 12 hours.