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07-08-2013, 05:40 PM
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If they were really high, I can see using flch (as in Carl's scenario) They sure didn't stay high. As Timbo alluded to earlier, the 777 is a glider, but once it's dirtied up, it's like a 737-200. Remember the days on the 737 of tossing out the boat anchor. It takes a little while to configure the 777 due to the flap speeds and glide angle, but once you are dirty you can come downstairs in a hurry.
Carl,
When I answered your previous post, I did not know they were supposedly really high. If that was in fact the case, they would have selected level change and probably set airport elevation. However, they landed in line with the runway, so someone was looking outside. We've done this scenario many times in the sim, landing short was never the issue.
At the end of the day, in our sim sessions, those high visuals we're an exercise in energy awareness. If nothing else, they enhance your awareness of your energy state including airspeed and throttle position.
Carl,
When I answered your previous post, I did not know they were supposedly really high. If that was in fact the case, they would have selected level change and probably set airport elevation. However, they landed in line with the runway, so someone was looking outside. We've done this scenario many times in the sim, landing short was never the issue.
At the end of the day, in our sim sessions, those high visuals we're an exercise in energy awareness. If nothing else, they enhance your awareness of your energy state including airspeed and throttle position.
Carl
07-08-2013, 05:50 PM
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At 185 in a 777 er, the max flaps is 20 to be in limits (from memory, I use the placard) with the gear down. He still had flaps 25 and 30 to go at 4 miles and 1900 feet. Not able to be stabilized by dal criteria.
07-08-2013, 05:52 PM
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I shouldn't have programmed this with the FMS...
I think it's working, click on it again. Its one of those try not to laugh videos. better than just another Rick Roll.
07-08-2013, 05:53 PM
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07-08-2013, 06:06 PM
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FWIW....the most recent A320 Flywire made this statement, "Hopefully, the next time we talk about tail strike prevention is in preparation for A321 deliveries!" At least it didn't come from SD. If info flows from SD I simply throw it in the trash.
07-08-2013, 07:46 PM
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If I remember correctly from pulling the sfo atis after getting the dispatcher email, the wind was 7 kts.
At 185 in a 777 er, the max flaps is 20 to be in limits (from memory, I use the placard) I'm assuming he had the gear down. He still had flaps 25 and 30 to go at 4 miles and 1900 feet. Not able to be stabilized by dal criteria.
At 185 in a 777 er, the max flaps is 20 to be in limits (from memory, I use the placard) I'm assuming he had the gear down. He still had flaps 25 and 30 to go at 4 miles and 1900 feet. Not able to be stabilized by dal criteria.
I had to fix my post because I am assuming he had the gear down at 4 miles and it was what I meant but didn't type earlier.
07-08-2013, 07:50 PM
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Another really bad thing to speculate about is how many of the cockpit crew will end up in a Korean prison. Eveything
I've seen or heard in the press/media from Asiana management has really been detrimental to the cockpit crew.
I've seen or heard in the press/media from Asiana management has really been detrimental to the cockpit crew.
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07-08-2013, 08:05 PM
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07-08-2013, 08:12 PM
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07-08-2013, 08:55 PM
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I haven't seen any of the news on the topic. No tv at the beach, just movies and the Internet. The Internet stuff is verrrry surfacy. Except here.
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