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Old 08-28-2009, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
From the "LAXFAX" CP office newsletter:

As most of you know, the summer base visit was held in Orange County on August 12th. In attendance were about 40 LAX and layover pilots which, is about 4 times as many as we had at the last visit held in LAX. The meeting lasted about three hours with a very robust question and answer segment. There was a lot of information provided. Some of the bullets are below.

Captain Gary Valvo, Director-Western Region kicked off the festivities with introductions and a brief reminder of the purpose and use of the Maintenance Discrepancy Manual (more on that in a separate e-mail).

Captain Jim Graham, VP Flying Operations & Chief Pilot was the first presenter. Jim’s discussion revolved mainly around the state of the industry in this economy which he described as the worst revenue environment ever.

Following are the bullet points of Captain Graham’s presentation:

• Pax revenue is down 20% with about a 30-40% reduction in business travel—worst revenue environment ever
• We have realized or will shortly realize $650m in synergies from merger
• No furloughs are forecasted
• Delta has over $5B in liquidity, which is a good position relative to the other legacy carriers
• SOC should be around the first of the year
• Our current manning levels are about where the company needs to be for the summer 2010 projections.
• SATCOM cost about $85,000 per aircraft not feasible to put on all ETOPS aircraft. The focus is on a/c used in Africa, SA and Mid East.

Next up was First Officer Barry Wilbur, Director – Pilot Crew Resources and Scheduling
• First post SOC A/E bid will be sometime in January• Furlough payback is 18-24 months, so not forecasted now
• Will look into LAX 7ER crews flying PDX-NRT (should be in October bid package)
• Issue of CVG was raised and it was stated that CVG does have future value and it is hoped that the international flying will return.
• Discussion of the AE process and priorities. In general, however, not always the case, even though AEs are processed first, MDs have priority over AE.

Mike Gallagher Network Planning discussed the following:
• LA is critically important, but it is too early in the merger to tell what’s going to work.
• Lots of movement following SOC (proper gauging of aircraft and bases (i.e possibly A-320/319 to SLC and M90 to MSP)
• Pacific is not doing well due to economy and Swine Flu. Plan has been and continues to be to cancel unprofitable routes, reduce to and maintain Pacific core. Narita footprint will be maintained, but may adjust gauge to fit demand
• Hawaii is doing well
• Fight hard for JFK-LAX traffic by improving on-board products such as Business Elite (aware of issues at JFK Terminal 4, but no clear answer re:fix)
• LAX-SYD very competitive market. Losing money on fares, but cargo loads are helping. May draw down to six days per week. Virgin Blue code share will help draw passengers beyond Sydney and Alaska will help feed the flight
• Advertising is very expensive and would like to advertise but Network planning doesn’t decide. [The issue was raised several; times, but no clear answer.]
• Question about 777 base in LAX—not at this time, International increases in LAX very difficult to make money. Sao Paulo did not work, but may come back late fall or early winter. SYD is a question mark; the company can’t lose money on it indefinitely
• Capacity has been rationalized by the industry
• ATL and MSP are best performing hubs
• We are flying all routes that NWA has
• SEA has important corporate clients such as Microsoft
• 5th Freedom rights in Asia are not in jeopardy.


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Thanks for sharing. I think this info is fine. Bottom line if you are willing to read airliners.net for a few hours this info shows up there anyway. Also management does not publicly talk about critical information that would sink the ship. Its good to get info like this when not all of us can attend these meeting and Moak is too busy selling our scope to give precise updates.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
...Also, if you look at our pay, it is not that much different than the likes of RJET.

I am all for taking back flying. The rates are not that far apart, and if anyone has a economics or business background they would realize that the costs over a longer term will be cheaper at DAL.
Not to mention the fact that when Delta makes $300 million, Delta gets to keep it. But when Delta pays RJET $300 million, RJET turns around and uses it to bail out Delta's competitors.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:02 PM
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Thread drift... mega, mega, mega. Its $333M.

If I start talking about my PBY, B-25, DC-6 or DC-7, Bonanza or 1900C, then you know something is up... crap. I didn't buy a ticket!

Thread drift complete.

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Old 08-28-2009, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Thread drift... mega, mega, mega.

If I start talking about my PBY, DC-6 or DC-7, Bonanza or 1900C, then you know something is up... crap. I didn't buy a ticket.

Thread drift complete.
Guilty...your post just made me take a little walk down the street.

Come on Big $$$!
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyinPiker
Guilty...your post just made me take a little walk down the street.

Come on Big $$$!
That doesn't make me feel better, but it will if we talk comission. You did put it in writing, you'd never bought the ticket without me!

I forgot to mention I want to buy a DC-9 too.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:48 PM
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Thanks for the update Buzz.

To all, of course his info is public and acceptable to post using names. It was gained at a public meeting for the base. Now if he was in the boardroom, where he signed his name to a document titled "Non Disclosure Agreement", then we all take Blue Horseshoe's advice and buy, buy, buy.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:37 PM
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Hey South Guys,

Just wondering. How often are you delayed and waiting at the gate for your weight and balance numbers? As a North Guy, with the way things go now, I can ell you that over 90% of the time we get our "numbers" after pushback. I know ramp will change the way they do things, but can you say "Detroit."

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Old 08-28-2009, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Hey South Guys,

Just wondering. How often are you delayed and waiting at the gate for your weight and balance numbers? As a North Guy, with the way things go now, I can ell you that over 90% of the time we get our "numbers" after pushback. I know ramp will change the way they do things, but can you say "Detroit."

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Almost never - it is the rare occasion that we have to wait longer than 5 minutes for numbers......
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Thanks for the update Buzz.

To all, of course his info is public and acceptable to post using names. It was gained at a public meeting for the base. Now if he was in the boardroom, where he signed his name to a document titled "Non Disclosure Agreement", then we all take Blue Horseshoe's advice and buy, buy, buy.
There's a difference between info meant for employee consumption and that meant for public dissemination. I'm sure you know that.

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Old 08-28-2009, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Not to mention the fact that when Delta makes $300 million, Delta gets to keep it. But when Delta pays RJET $300 million, RJET turns around and uses it to bail out Delta's competitors.
Or BECOME one of Delta's competitors, maybe with a wink wink from management seeing as how nicely our pull backs are coordinated with our "partner's" expansion.
Originally Posted by Byan Bedford, President of Republic Airlines Holdings
The second part of Republic's strategy is to re-launch services to prime business destinations. "It's hard to be the carrier of choice if you can't serve the top 35 out of 50 local O&D markets in your hometown marketplace," says Bedford. "Again, Midwest is not delivering on its consumer promise to be the carrier of choice because we don't fly where you want to go, because we can't afford it. Well now we can afford it."

Another key link in rebuilding Midwest's network is service from Milwaukee to Los Angeles. "It's been booking now for five weeks. It's the second best market the company's got, so it hasn't taken the community long to welcome reconnecting the network back. We'll increase that service to two a day in September when Delta pulls their one flight a day out of the market."
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