Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-04-2013, 09:47 PM
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From June 2012 to 2013 there were 74 fewer Captains. You were told that the staffing efficiencies would net net save the Company about 125 jobs or about 62 captain jobs. Now 62 seems pretty close to 74. You were also told that the efficiencies would cycle in before the 717's arrived. So yes, that was a concession, but I believe a concession that was well spelled out to the pilot group during the TA discussion.
07-05-2013, 02:50 AM
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I think I've heard this said in more than a few interviews: Delta is an investment vehicle. If you convince investors that you have a stable and happy employee group, you get more of them to invest more money, which in the long run makes all the investors happy. Show, investors that you got employees to sign off on a deal that had small pay raises and concessions in it when your company was making record profits, the investors are ecstatic.
Smart move on their part.
Smart move on their part.
07-05-2013, 03:31 AM
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alfa,
Are you really bragging that we got an early retirement program that the rest of the employees got the previous year? In my book, it was an epic fail that we didn't get the program with the other employees, then bought off on the the proposition that it was a "gift" included to sweeten the new contract.
Are you really bragging that we got an early retirement program that the rest of the employees got the previous year? In my book, it was an epic fail that we didn't get the program with the other employees, then bought off on the the proposition that it was a "gift" included to sweeten the new contract.
07-05-2013, 03:33 AM
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They couldn't, they needed you to sign off on more jumbo RJ outsourcing to keep the DCI plantation system alive and making them money. You came through for them, and didn't insist on much in the way of raises, partly offset by a decrease in profit sharing, so they gave you a contract early. Turns out all you need to do to get an early contract is sell out the next generation of pilots in exchange for single-digit raises! Silly SWA pilots, why didn't they think of that.... 
07-05-2013, 03:55 AM
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alfa,
Are you really bragging that we got an early retirement program that the rest of the employees got the previous year? In my book, it was an epic fail that we didn't get the program with the other employees, then bought off on the the proposition that it was a "gift" included to sweeten the new contract. Just like the "gifts" of the 717 and retired 50 seat RJ's. Oh, and my favorite, the max of 14 hours of duty for short call reserve.
When I buy my kids sweaters and school supplies for Christmas, they know the deal (we were going to get them those things anyway.) Why don't we?
Are you really bragging that we got an early retirement program that the rest of the employees got the previous year? In my book, it was an epic fail that we didn't get the program with the other employees, then bought off on the the proposition that it was a "gift" included to sweeten the new contract. Just like the "gifts" of the 717 and retired 50 seat RJ's. Oh, and my favorite, the max of 14 hours of duty for short call reserve.
When I buy my kids sweaters and school supplies for Christmas, they know the deal (we were going to get them those things anyway.) Why don't we?
Let's not even mention the 5% cut in profit sharing to "help" fund the raises. Anyone else have a problem with this?
07-05-2013, 04:26 AM
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07-05-2013, 05:05 AM
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As an hourly wage worker, I'm no manager, I want my money every month. I don't really care if the Company makes a small profit or a large profit. It's really none of my business. Did I say I'm not a manager? I show up. I do my job. I go home.
Here is my point: Replacing uncertain profit sharing with a regular wage was not a problem for me. I don't think profit incentives are useful for a non-management, hourly wage worker.
07-05-2013, 05:24 AM
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I assume you'll turn down the flow since you think so little of your future co-workers??? We're all a bunch of rollovers with no spine eh?
Here's a better idea: Thank us when your turn comes up and you watch DCI shrink from your 717 seat. You WILL have to get used to flying 45 minute legs, 5 times a day! Hope you're not above it
Here's a better idea: Thank us when your turn comes up and you watch DCI shrink from your 717 seat. You WILL have to get used to flying 45 minute legs, 5 times a day! Hope you're not above it
07-05-2013, 05:27 AM
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I'm pretty much a Doubting Thomas in regards to anything DALPA. I have never voted yes for a contract. I didn't have a problem with this item.
As an hourly wage worker, I'm no manager, I want my money every month. I don't really care if the Company makes a small profit or a large profit. It's really none of my business. Did I say I'm not a manager? I show up. I do my job. I go home.
Here is my point: Replacing uncertain profit sharing with a regular wage was not a problem for me. I don't think profit incentives are useful for a non-management, hourly wage worker.
As an hourly wage worker, I'm no manager, I want my money every month. I don't really care if the Company makes a small profit or a large profit. It's really none of my business. Did I say I'm not a manager? I show up. I do my job. I go home.
Here is my point: Replacing uncertain profit sharing with a regular wage was not a problem for me. I don't think profit incentives are useful for a non-management, hourly wage worker.
07-05-2013, 05:46 AM
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