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06-24-2013, 12:26 PM

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ShyGuy

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Jack,

Out of pure curiosity.....how would Virgin Atlantic operate JFK to ATL, BNA, CAE, BOS, (insert US city here)?

Now if you're suggesting they'll take all of our transatlantic routes....well you and I should just agree to disagree on that.

With Virgin America of course!

06-24-2013, 12:29 PM

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With Virgin America of course!

Wait....a 3 way?

Timeout!!!!

06-24-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Let's hope. I keep having to park at the B gate in SEA, so we have obviously increased flying there. I also operate a LAX-SEA next month. I like what I'm seeing.

I was just there yesterday and the day before. It was nice not to have to take the train from the S gates.

06-24-2013, 12:33 PM

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I was just there yesterday and the day before. It was nice not to have to take the train from the S gates.

Right? It is such a short trip to B7 as opposed to S4.

06-24-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

Hey, I know we mainly into "opportunities" that seem to benefit the company right now but out of curiosity what would it take for DALPA to get SEA officially designated and treated as a "hub"?

It would take management wanting to officially designate and treat SEA a hub. When that happens, DALPA will be all over it.

Carl

06-24-2013, 12:54 PM

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Does international override go above and beyond reserve guarantee? Can't find in the PWA how that gets factored in for reserve pilots.

06-24-2013, 01:03 PM

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MD-90 off the taxiway and stuck in the mud at DCA. Airport still open.

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06-24-2013, 01:04 PM

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Jack Bauer

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Originally Posted by johnso29

I very much could see us ceding current landing slots to VA between Heathrow and other US cities including JFK. As much as our brand seems to be making progress, I believe our leadership sees Virgin Atlantic as such a premium brand (with assets we are incapable or unwilling to deploy) they would be happy to turn (lend) much of the London based flying over to the Sir Richards Ultra Premium Virgin Atlantic brand (once the Justice Dept signs off on JV language). DALPA's response? "There's a side letter for that. "You see, in the overall scheme of things, having one of Europe's most sexy airlines flying the most important city pairs in the network we win more premium corporate accounts....and that my friend benefits each and every Delta employee in the long run...increased profit sharing and so on and so forth.... end quote.

Delta no longer thinks in terms of Delta Air Lines flying their own metal. It's all about "The Network" and benjamins. Unfortunately the only group we have registered to prevent further erosion of Delta Pilot flying continues to allow carve outs and our very president believes at least one form of outsourced flying is "good for Delta pilots because it feeds our hubs".

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06-24-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

Hey, I know we mainly into "opportunities" that seem to benefit the company right now but out of curiosity what would it take for DALPA to get SEA officially designated and treated as a "hub"?

Sorry for the double post originally.

SEA "hub" status is ONLY in reference to the Alaska Airlines Marketing Agreement. It is already a crew domicile and operational hub for Delta.

To change that, it would require the Company to enter Section 6 negotiations, them willingly open up Section 1 of the PWA, Alaska or Delta terminate the "marketing agreement", or a merger with Alaska Airlines; then the "marketing agreement" would cease to exist and with it the language differentiating Alaska hubs and Delta hubs.