Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-22-2013, 10:32 AM
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keep in mind the IA might be a pilot walking off another jet. I one time timed out and schedulings solution was for me to deadhead and IA a pilot.
06-22-2013, 10:35 AM
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Kinda funny y'all mentioned the F86 yesterday...just happened to be playing around with this the past few days...
06-22-2013, 11:05 AM
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That's right, FTB. And there is no way SWA has FO's making more than our Capts, because they are SWA and fly only 737s and we are mighty Delta.
There's also no way Alaska has taken over our western US flying, because they only exist to feed our international flights from Seattle.
And there's no way DL customers have had bad service on DCI, because "our customers prefer those mainline jets with 70 or more seats" according to RA.
There is no way we are falling behind any other airline, because "look at US Air"....oh crap, they are hiring and growing. "Er, no, American"...no, they are hiring as well. Even with their combative independent union.
"Well, things are horrible in the cargo world"...unless you like making 180k your second year and having an A fund.
"Don't worry about GOL, they only fly inside Brazil"...they are just firing up their international routes now...expect to see them flying DL widebody pax in the future.
"We have a scope improvement opportunity!"...lumping in another airport to help management meet their numbers? Really? Next time I sign a contract, I'll try that one. I'll promise to pay a $500,000 for a house. Then, at closing, I'll bring $400,000 and ask them to count another hundred sitting in my 401k as the rest of the purchase price. And if the sellers are ALPA, they will say yes, thank me, and offer to renegotiate the terms if the value of my 401k ever decreases.
"Well, the out of balance Atlantic flying will be fixed in our favor any day now"...yes, they will start to begin considering a way to form a committee to find a way to think about meeting their contractual obligation around the time my grandchildren are born.
There's also no way Alaska has taken over our western US flying, because they only exist to feed our international flights from Seattle.
And there's no way DL customers have had bad service on DCI, because "our customers prefer those mainline jets with 70 or more seats" according to RA.
There is no way we are falling behind any other airline, because "look at US Air"....oh crap, they are hiring and growing. "Er, no, American"...no, they are hiring as well. Even with their combative independent union.
"Well, things are horrible in the cargo world"...unless you like making 180k your second year and having an A fund.
"Don't worry about GOL, they only fly inside Brazil"...they are just firing up their international routes now...expect to see them flying DL widebody pax in the future.
"We have a scope improvement opportunity!"...lumping in another airport to help management meet their numbers? Really? Next time I sign a contract, I'll try that one. I'll promise to pay a $500,000 for a house. Then, at closing, I'll bring $400,000 and ask them to count another hundred sitting in my 401k as the rest of the purchase price. And if the sellers are ALPA, they will say yes, thank me, and offer to renegotiate the terms if the value of my 401k ever decreases.
"Well, the out of balance Atlantic flying will be fixed in our favor any day now"...yes, they will start to begin considering a way to form a committee to find a way to think about meeting their contractual obligation around the time my grandchildren are born.
06-22-2013, 11:43 AM
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Never heard the nothing before noon thing...
06-22-2013, 11:57 AM
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I believe that they cannot assign you anything that reports/starts(SC) earlier than 5 hours after the end of your off period.
Not sure if there is some special exception for vacation, however. If not, then I believe the earliest they can have you do SC is 0500.
06-22-2013, 12:07 PM
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p. 23-47
Exception: A reserve pilot will not be assigned a rotation that has a report earlier than 1200 (base time) if the non-fly day that preceded the on-call day was a vacation day.
I don't think they can make you start your rest on your vacation day.
Exception: A reserve pilot will not be assigned a rotation that has a report earlier than 1200 (base time) if the non-fly day that preceded the on-call day was a vacation day.
I don't think they can make you start your rest on your vacation day.
06-22-2013, 12:16 PM
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Purple drank is correct.
The day after a vacation you cannot be required to report for any trip before noon.
Section 23.S.2.a.5
So the earliest short call they could give you is 10 AM.
Also, there is no "last non-fly day schedule check" required on vacation.
Basically what that means is you go on long call at midnight. You can look at your schedule earlier than that if you want and acknowledge anything on there. If you see a short call for the next day at 10 AM and you choose not to acknowledge it then you can expect a midnight phone call.
The day after a vacation you cannot be required to report for any trip before noon.
Section 23.S.2.a.5
So the earliest short call they could give you is 10 AM.
Also, there is no "last non-fly day schedule check" required on vacation.
Basically what that means is you go on long call at midnight. You can look at your schedule earlier than that if you want and acknowledge anything on there. If you see a short call for the next day at 10 AM and you choose not to acknowledge it then you can expect a midnight phone call.
06-22-2013, 12:21 PM
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06-22-2013, 12:32 PM
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06-22-2013, 12:43 PM
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Winning in NYC!!! Right!
I think the bus mess from T4 to T2 is almost worse than the old T3!
Between the idiots running the buses and 3+hour waits to clear immigration, I would venture to guess we are miss connecting least 40% of our passengers in JFK. Over the last 4 days I have done 4 legs outbound from JFK. Every flight was scheduled to be nearly full or oversold. EVERY FLIGHT WENT OUT WITH 30+ SEATS OPEN DUE TO MISS CONNECTING PASSENGERS!! And there was NO Weather and NO ATC delays!!
I listened to the people talking around me on the bus, and they all planned never to book a international ticket though JFK again!!
I think the bus mess from T4 to T2 is almost worse than the old T3!
Between the idiots running the buses and 3+hour waits to clear immigration, I would venture to guess we are miss connecting least 40% of our passengers in JFK. Over the last 4 days I have done 4 legs outbound from JFK. Every flight was scheduled to be nearly full or oversold. EVERY FLIGHT WENT OUT WITH 30+ SEATS OPEN DUE TO MISS CONNECTING PASSENGERS!! And there was NO Weather and NO ATC delays!!
I listened to the people talking around me on the bus, and they all planned never to book a international ticket though JFK again!!
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