Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale

The first "retard" is a noun....the second "retard" is a verb

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

WARN_016
Recall the meaning of the command "RETARD, RETARD".

Normally, the autothrust system is disengaged on landing when the thrust levers are retarded to the IDLE position. At 50' a synthesized voice states “RETARD, RETARD" with the first "RETARD" a noun and the second "RETARD" a verb.



VOL II
8.5.10

Originally Posted by Roadkill

Does anyone else think the Delta bidding process is addictive? It seems a lot like one of those online games, Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPG, and you know anything that sounds like "more pig!" must be good!). Online you get hooked on grinding away at some meaningless repetitive task, that gives you small meaningless rewards every so often. Guys spend days leveling up on lumberjacking or fishing, because it gives them some small bonus to dex or strength for their character, or gives them some pixel-crack item. So too with Delta bidding...

First comes the monthly bid package... you wait for it and wait, when's it gonna be out? What kind of trips will there be next month?? They change it up just enough that you wonder and have some anticipation--maybe we'll get Anchorage back, maybe there will be Jamaica, maybe not TOO much JFK redeye action? FINALLY like the old Sears catalog arriving, or the Sports Illustrated swim suit issue for the genY'ers, the bid package shows up via the backdoor--and again, there's JUST enough variability in when it does arrive that you start looking early just to see.

It's always a letdown, and so much info... you think, you plot, you make your Christmas list, you write your letter to Santa and the PBS gods, "Please Santa PBS, I've been so customer-oriented all year, and Always Engaging--I even pushed the Brand one trip and handed out American Express flyers! Please don't give me a lump-of-STI-PAP-MEX-coal! I just want a layo in SAN, I've been soooo good..."

You rewrite your bids twenty times, plot complex if-then-else-crap! algorithims and then delete them in the last 30 minutes before bids close as too risky---just gimme these days off doh! You send it into the aether and start waiting again! wait wait... wait... The results have to be out by the 17th, but it's always SOME early, again with that random element injected that is so effective at creating addiction. Those psychologists running the show and VP Pavlov have got it wired--like crack, you neeeeed them results so you can just get ON with your life and next month's plans! Where is dem results man?? Ohhhhhh hurry... They even leave the backdoor hole open, because they know how quickly that gets abused in an addicted crack-head and so why wouldn't they use that trick on us too?

Again the results are disappointing, but it's not over yet! Now comes the WORST and most addictive grinding tweak they give us--the PCS runs! They know we'd lose interest and play some other game, maybe World of Warcraft or Call to Duty, if they don't keep us hooked with some meaningless goal, so they give us the "20th PCS run". So again, your life is just suuuuuuck from a scheduling perspective cuz you've only been working here 14 years and haven't broken out of the bottom 10% yet; you have to grab at any straw of schedule tweak you can to improve--they gave you a taste of 15% for a bit and it was sweet but now they're taking that juicy bidding goodness away from you! So you dive into the PCS bid, and start looking at the open time.

Then they have you, they own you heart and soul... they start running mini-bids every 5 hours on you man with a 0700, 1200, 1700, and 2200 PCS bid run. When you start to lose interest, they float internet rumors about green slips flowing like heroin and honey from a candy mountain; and stories of guys doing rolling thunder--but ONLY if you're paying attention to the PCS bids every few hours, don't take your eye off the ball Johny!

So you're camped at your computer, bidding and waiting, studying bids and waiting, and to pass the time you read Latest and Greatest and hope for good rumor that's not just more secret addictive pumping from the PBS gods. Once in a while you get up in your bathrobe and slippers to make your kids cereal when you notice the sun is up.

Anyone else get that feeling?

Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale

AND.....(wait for it...wait for it)

ALL of the brand new 20 something year old FA's are staying there while they train!!!! They actually don't hate pilots yet.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I don't believe that's correct Denny. Last CVR words were about an erroneous fuel flow indication on one of the engine gauges, and the Captain commanding climb power. I don't recall any CVR reference to the scavenge pump. Since the center wing tank was empty, there would have been no reason to activate the scavenge pump, thus no reason to turn it off.



There are members of the investigation board that are coming forward to say just the opposite. It will be very interesting to hear what they have to say and to see their evidence.

Carl

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

All I can say is I have it on the best authority that the center tank scavenge pump was turned off just prior to the explosion and that it was deciphered from the CVR.

Those members were not as close to the investigation as you might think.....

Denny

Originally Posted by Roadkill

Does anyone else think the Delta bidding process is addictive? It seems a lot like one of those online games, Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPG, and you know anything that sounds like "more pig!" must be good!). Online you get hooked on grinding away at some meaningless repetitive task, that gives you small meaningless rewards every so often. Guys spend days leveling up on lumberjacking or fishing, because it gives them some small bonus to dex or strength for their character, or gives them some pixel-crack item. So too with Delta bidding...

First comes the monthly bid package... you wait for it and wait, when's it gonna be out? What kind of trips will there be next month?? They change it up just enough that you wonder and have some anticipation--maybe we'll get Anchorage back, maybe there will be Jamaica, maybe not TOO much JFK redeye action? FINALLY like the old Sears catalog arriving, or the Sports Illustrated swim suit issue for the genY'ers, the bid package shows up via the backdoor--and again, there's JUST enough variability in when it does arrive that you start looking early just to see.

It's always a letdown, and so much info... you think, you plot, you make your Christmas list, you write your letter to Santa and the PBS gods, "Please Santa PBS, I've been so customer-oriented all year, and Always Engaging--I even pushed the Brand one trip and handed out American Express flyers! Please don't give me a lump-of-STI-PAP-MEX-coal! I just want a layo in SAN, I've been soooo good..."

You rewrite your bids twenty times, plot complex if-then-else-crap! algorithims and then delete them in the last 30 minutes before bids close as too risky---just gimme these days off doh! You send it into the aether and start waiting again! wait wait... wait... The results have to be out by the 17th, but it's always SOME early, again with that random element injected that is so effective at creating addiction. Those psychologists running the show and VP Pavlov have got it wired--like crack, you neeeeed them results so you can just get ON with your life and next month's plans! Where is dem results man?? Ohhhhhh hurry... They even leave the backdoor hole open, because they know how quickly that gets abused in an addicted crack-head and so why wouldn't they use that trick on us too?

Again the results are disappointing, but it's not over yet! Now comes the WORST and most addictive grinding tweak they give us--the PCS runs! They know we'd lose interest and play some other game, maybe World of Warcraft or Call to Duty, if they don't keep us hooked with some meaningless goal, so they give us the "20th PCS run". So again, your life is just suuuuuuck from a scheduling perspective cuz you've only been working here 14 years and haven't broken out of the bottom 10% yet; you have to grab at any straw of schedule tweak you can to improve--they gave you a taste of 15% for a bit and it was sweet but now they're taking that juicy bidding goodness away from you! So you dive into the PCS bid, and start looking at the open time.

Then they have you, they own you heart and soul... they start running mini-bids every 5 hours on you man with a 0700, 1200, 1700, and 2200 PCS bid run. When you start to lose interest, they float internet rumors about green slips flowing like heroin and honey from a candy mountain; and stories of guys doing rolling thunder--but ONLY if you're paying attention to the PCS bids every few hours, don't take your eye off the ball Johny!

So you're camped at your computer, bidding and waiting, studying bids and waiting, and to pass the time you read Latest and Greatest and hope for good rumor that's not just more secret addictive pumping from the PBS gods. Once in a while you get up in your bathrobe and slippers to make your kids cereal when you notice the sun is up.

Anyone else get that feeling?

Originally Posted by Columbia

And that best authority is God.