Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-14-2013, 01:41 PM
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06-14-2013, 01:42 PM
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06-14-2013, 01:47 PM
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I'm at my 3rd displacement and I'm on 6th year pay. Good times. What's the contract say....4th displacement and you go directly to 777 A?
06-14-2013, 01:53 PM
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Every "little thing" adds up to more suffocating stagnation regardless of what the so called "optimists" (usually guys already in a good position in the hierarchy or nibbling off the union milk) say. Early retirement programs that fail to replace lost pilots, more productivity including increases to what reserves can be flown (it's happening now), changing the number of days in a bid month, unchecked scope violations and flying going everywhere but to mainline Delta pilots (JV partners, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Aeromexico and outsourced RJ flying 2.0 enabled by C2012). etc, etc. And now we have those here who want to give the company even more for their own personal benefit.
06-14-2013, 01:55 PM
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06-14-2013, 02:14 PM
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I was definitely wrong with G&LP, but that doesn't mean I can't try for something better.
How does TP sound?
I was definitely wrong with G&LP, but that doesn't mean I can't try for something better.
How does TP sound?
06-14-2013, 02:23 PM
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06-14-2013, 03:15 PM
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I'm not sure that is right Denny. I beleive once we hit 2.5 billion then they pay 20% of PTIX into the profit sharing plan. If we are under that, then they pay 10% of the PTIX into the plan. I remember someone saying that the profit sharing cost would double if we went over 2.5 billion.
It's also very hard for them to manipulate the numbers to lower the PTIX numbers. I'm not an accounting expert, but paying down debt or buying more assets goes into the equation after the PTIX calculation.
It's also very hard for them to manipulate the numbers to lower the PTIX numbers. I'm not an accounting expert, but paying down debt or buying more assets goes into the equation after the PTIX calculation.
Profit sharing does double on the part that goes over 2.5 billion, not on the part below........
Call the union if you don't believe me....
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06-14-2013, 03:28 PM
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I think you are right Columbia. Look at Lufthansa, they have Longevity Pay. The JUNIOR guys have to fly the 747 around the world on 14 day trips, while the SENIOR guys fly the 737 on shuttle type trips, in and out of Berlin. They show up at 8am, fly a few out and backs, go home every night, never even pack a suitcase.
For many years in the past the "Senior Trip" at DL was on the L10-11, it was the San Juan Turn. About 8hrs. out and back. You worked 10 days a month for 80 hours, slept in your own bed every night. I have several friends senior to me who are still flying the 767 Domestic just to fly those type trips. They want no part of ULR flying.
For many years, at Western Airlines, some of their most senior trips were on the 737, out and backs from SLC to all over Montana and Wyoming.
As I've said here many times, if we ever do go to a true Longevity Based Pay, I'll be off the 777 in a NY minute, and on to what ever goes to the Caribbean for 24 hour layovers on the beach!
I HATE ULR flying, but with our system, it pays the most, so I do it. But it is terribly boring. And we don't have much variety in where we go, (5 destinations, that's it) and oh yeah, we rarely even get a landing.
I'm one of those weirdo pilots who actually enjoy hand flying airplanes. I have to go beg my buds to let me fly their light airplanes on my off days, just to... satisfy my urges!
I was out on my catamaran chasing a guy in a Quicksilver on floats this morning, looking for a ride! He said "next time" as he was about out of gas. 
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06-14-2013, 03:36 PM
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Man I hope you're kidding...
I am so sick of hearing this BS. Explain to me what "out of seniority" means with regards to being on the ER? If there are positions open, and no body else wants them, then junior guys get them. That does not constitute out of seniority.
I am so sick of hearing this BS. Explain to me what "out of seniority" means with regards to being on the ER? If there are positions open, and no body else wants them, then junior guys get them. That does not constitute out of seniority.
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