LOBO

The frau is non-reving to Ireland. She wants to bring a carry on and check a bag. (I've tried to convince her otherwise)

Here's the question. If she does check it does it go to the final destination no matter if she's on the plane or not.

Example CHS - ATL - DUB doesn't make this connection so she does CHS - JFK - DUB did her bag make it there or not?

A little help would be appreciated.

PM if you can.

Roadkill

From Scheduling Alert 13-03 for the last AE:

The actual training assignment is made by Crew Resources. Section 22 of the PWA governs assignments to training. In general, the order for training is as follows:
 Pilots awarded reinstatements/AEs to a category, in seniority order.
 Pilots assigned VDs from a category, in seniority order, followed by pilots assigned MDs from that category, in inverse seniority order.
 If there are multiple categories to which pilots have been awarded AEs and/or from which pilots are awarded VDs and/or assigned MDs, the Company determines which category to train to or from first.
Note: Training order is independent of previous or subsequent bid postings. Pilots from the same posting are trained in the order above.
Pilots will be notified in several ways when training is scheduled:
 Pop-up message in iCrew/eCrew
 Letter to their residence
 The addition of training to their Vacation/Training/Sick (VTS) record in iCrew/eCrew
Conversion
The conversion order for awarded AEs and VDs and assigned MDs will be determined by seniority:
1) Pilots who hold an AE from the same posting and to the same category will be converted in seniority order.
2) Pilots who hold a VD from the same posting and from the same category will be converted in seniority order.
3) Pilots who hold an MD from the same category will be converted in inverse seniority order.
Exception one: A pilot may indicate in his standing bid a desire to be converted among pilots who hold an award from the same posting, if:
1) awarded an AE, after more junior pilots holding an AE to the same category.
2) awarded a VD, after more junior pilots holding a VD from the same category.
3) assigned an MD, before more junior pilots holding an MD from the same category.
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Exception two: A pilot who is awarded an AE or VD and does not require training may be converted (in seniority order among other pilots not requiring training) in advance of a senior pilot who requires training.
Conversions always occur on the first day of a bid period. Monthly conversion lists are posted on the “Crew Resources and Scheduling” page of DeltaNet.
If training is required, the scheduled completion date of simulator training determines a pilot’s conversion date. If projected to complete simulator training on or before the 16th day of a bid period, a pilot will be converted no later than the first day of that bid period. If projected to complete training after the 16th day of a bid period, a pilot will be converted no later than the first day of the following bid period.
Note: There are exceptions to the conversion rules for a new aircraft type and a new or reestablished category. Specific details about the exceptions and order of conversions may be found in PWA Sections 22 E. and 22 F.
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So basically, I read this as you should have been converted first, but there are exceptions and the company as always has some loophole... I'd call CR and ask them, then follow up with call to ALPA if you're not satisfied with CR answer.

Roadkill

Here's a little gem I just read, from contract 22E2:

This looks to me that they can start training for 717 guys, and keep flying them in their old category for 181 days after the 717 is actually officially in service? What is that in-service date?

johnso29

Ok Carl. We will see what happens. Although it really doesn't matter. Because even when you're wrong, you're right. What a world you live in.

TeddyKGB

I don't know why you guys even try to reason with that guy.

buzzpat

Precisely. I come here to read, ponder and, sometimes, opine. I welcome all the views.

buzzpat

Yes, if she checks it, it goes through. Just had that experience with my wife on my jet.

She can carry on if its close.

Scoop

FL370,

Timbo is a solid poster and has consistently posted a lot of great information over the years. After you have been on this site for a while it becomes pretty evident who the posters with credibility are.

Timbo has a lot of credibility.

Scoop

80ktsClamp

Agreed. Timbo is one of the finest contributors on here. No fault on his part for asking about it.

That was a rumor that was spread quite strongly, but had no validity. It unfortunately appeared to be rooted in jealousy more than anything.

DARR31

It will go to the final destination. My wife had that happen. Was the last one on for the first leg, had to gate check it, did not make the second flight but the bag did. So I'd recommend if she is hell bent on checking a bag to pack an overnight carry on for the unexpected.