Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-04-2013, 11:58 PM
Da Hudge
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Neck pillow. He goes into standby mode when he's forced to wear something.
How less than thrilled is the TYBATAN spaniel with the down range results of C2012?
And the question has been asked- that is not a string bikini that my dog is standing over. That's one of his many stuffed animal carcasses that he proudly keeps. That one used to be a lobster.
How less than thrilled is the TYBATAN spaniel with the down range results of C2012?
And the question has been asked- that is not a string bikini that my dog is standing over. That's one of his many stuffed animal carcasses that he proudly keeps. That one used to be a lobster.
06-05-2013, 12:01 AM
meh
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Another beautiful turn of phrase from gloopy. Order 66. That's some outstanding prose man.
06-05-2013, 12:30 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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Neck pillow. He goes into standby mode when he's forced to wear something.
How less than thrilled is the TYBATAN spaniel with the down range results of C2012?
And the question has been asked- that is not a string bikini that my dog is standing over. That's one of his many stuffed animal carcasses that he proudly keeps. That one used to be a lobster.
How less than thrilled is the TYBATAN spaniel with the down range results of C2012?
And the question has been asked- that is not a string bikini that my dog is standing over. That's one of his many stuffed animal carcasses that he proudly keeps. That one used to be a lobster.
06-05-2013, 12:33 AM
Da Hudge
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06-05-2013, 01:36 AM
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06-05-2013, 03:06 AM
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I think now would be an appropriate time to post an alternative to what we have been getting:
DPA
1. Dues structure: 1st Year = 1.75%, 2nd Year = 1.5%, 3rd Year = 1.25%, 4th Year and beyond = 1%, .5% flex up during negotiations
2. No dues on profit sharing or other bonuses. Flex up dues fully accountable and unused portion returned after contract signed.
3. Dues savings annual average: Captains will save approximately $2,000, First Officers will save approximately $1,400.
4. DPA projects annual dues income of $35,000,000 at 1.75%, $30,000,000 at 1.5%, $25,000,000 at 1.25% and $20,000,000 at 1%
5. With a $15,000,000 annual budget, DPA will amass $35,000,000 excess in two years, more than ALPA’s (uncommitted) MCF total.
6. All dues collected will be used exclusively for Delta Pilot mandates.
7. DPA is now recognized by the IRS as a 501(c)5 Non-Profit Labor Organization. Constitution and By-Laws are posted.
8. DPA has guarantee letters for Aeromedical Services and Insurance products from Harvey Watt, ING and Great Southern Life.
9. The contract remains in force when DPA is certified. DPA will enter the normal negotiating cycle specified in the PWA.
10. DPA has no interest in addressing the Seniority List in any way. We are Delta Pilots working together for our future.
11. DPA uses open surveys with posted results. Delta Pilots can hold DPA accountable for survey results. Unity in purpose.
12. DPA will operate 8 Seniority Blocks of 1,500 pilots each. Each Block will have two Reps who are living those seniority issues.
13. Delta Pilots will VOTE for the DPA President and all other officer/representative positions.
14. Delta Pilots will see resumes and statements of intent for all elected positions including Committee Chair positions.
15. Out of almost 5,400 DPA Members, over 1,700 are ATL based, 1,100 are DTW based, 700 are MSP based and 700 are NYC based.
16. DPA is not “militant”. As an independent union, we hang our hat on Delta’s success. We will enforce a solid contract, however.
17. Professional negotiators will pursue Delta Pilot demands formed through open surveys.
18. All members will have full access to all finances, online, all the time.
19. Members may participate in video-teleconference Seniority Block meetings and be heard. DPA will exploit technology.
20. DPA leaders may not take management jobs for five years after serving the Delta Pilots.
21. Dues dollars will not be used to purchase alcohol at union meetings.
22. DPA is not “angry”, just determined to remove a broken association and achieve what is best/long overdue for Delta Pilots.
23. DPA will not represent any regional carriers. We will pursue all flying under the Delta brand if directed to by the Delta Pilots.
24. DPA will pursue contract improvements in all areas, even if some areas do not generate more dues dollars as a result.
25. DPA is not affiliated with the AFL-CIO or any other entity. Delta Pilots will direct who we affiliate with.
26. DPA leaders will be paid the ALV of the position bid plus a service override. DPA leaders will fly a half line minimum each month.
27. DPA leaders will not have a special pension that the Delta Pilot group does not also have.
28. DPA will be frugal with Delta Pilot dues contributions and seek to return excess to the members through refunds and benefits.
29. DPA will not face lawsuits from other airline pilot groups. There will be no conflicts of interest with other carriers.
30. DPA’s only desire is to exclusively represent the Delta Pilot group in whatever the 11,750 Pilots direct. Period.
Que the ALPA guys who will parrot their only talking points: "With that crazy Tim in charge I would never join the "fringe" group" (even though every single person including the new president will be elected by and for the pilot group)...."USAPA got nowhere and they are one in the same with DPA." (DPA is not USAPA the same way SWAPA is not USAPA)...."This is only about NWA guys trying to grab seniority back" (it's not and never was).
DPA
1. Dues structure: 1st Year = 1.75%, 2nd Year = 1.5%, 3rd Year = 1.25%, 4th Year and beyond = 1%, .5% flex up during negotiations
2. No dues on profit sharing or other bonuses. Flex up dues fully accountable and unused portion returned after contract signed.
3. Dues savings annual average: Captains will save approximately $2,000, First Officers will save approximately $1,400.
4. DPA projects annual dues income of $35,000,000 at 1.75%, $30,000,000 at 1.5%, $25,000,000 at 1.25% and $20,000,000 at 1%
5. With a $15,000,000 annual budget, DPA will amass $35,000,000 excess in two years, more than ALPA’s (uncommitted) MCF total.
6. All dues collected will be used exclusively for Delta Pilot mandates.
7. DPA is now recognized by the IRS as a 501(c)5 Non-Profit Labor Organization. Constitution and By-Laws are posted.
8. DPA has guarantee letters for Aeromedical Services and Insurance products from Harvey Watt, ING and Great Southern Life.
9. The contract remains in force when DPA is certified. DPA will enter the normal negotiating cycle specified in the PWA.
10. DPA has no interest in addressing the Seniority List in any way. We are Delta Pilots working together for our future.
11. DPA uses open surveys with posted results. Delta Pilots can hold DPA accountable for survey results. Unity in purpose.
12. DPA will operate 8 Seniority Blocks of 1,500 pilots each. Each Block will have two Reps who are living those seniority issues.
13. Delta Pilots will VOTE for the DPA President and all other officer/representative positions.
14. Delta Pilots will see resumes and statements of intent for all elected positions including Committee Chair positions.
15. Out of almost 5,400 DPA Members, over 1,700 are ATL based, 1,100 are DTW based, 700 are MSP based and 700 are NYC based.
16. DPA is not “militant”. As an independent union, we hang our hat on Delta’s success. We will enforce a solid contract, however.
17. Professional negotiators will pursue Delta Pilot demands formed through open surveys.
18. All members will have full access to all finances, online, all the time.
19. Members may participate in video-teleconference Seniority Block meetings and be heard. DPA will exploit technology.
20. DPA leaders may not take management jobs for five years after serving the Delta Pilots.
21. Dues dollars will not be used to purchase alcohol at union meetings.
22. DPA is not “angry”, just determined to remove a broken association and achieve what is best/long overdue for Delta Pilots.
23. DPA will not represent any regional carriers. We will pursue all flying under the Delta brand if directed to by the Delta Pilots.
24. DPA will pursue contract improvements in all areas, even if some areas do not generate more dues dollars as a result.
25. DPA is not affiliated with the AFL-CIO or any other entity. Delta Pilots will direct who we affiliate with.
26. DPA leaders will be paid the ALV of the position bid plus a service override. DPA leaders will fly a half line minimum each month.
27. DPA leaders will not have a special pension that the Delta Pilot group does not also have.
28. DPA will be frugal with Delta Pilot dues contributions and seek to return excess to the members through refunds and benefits.
29. DPA will not face lawsuits from other airline pilot groups. There will be no conflicts of interest with other carriers.
30. DPA’s only desire is to exclusively represent the Delta Pilot group in whatever the 11,750 Pilots direct. Period.
Que the ALPA guys who will parrot their only talking points: "With that crazy Tim in charge I would never join the "fringe" group" (even though every single person including the new president will be elected by and for the pilot group)...."USAPA got nowhere and they are one in the same with DPA." (DPA is not USAPA the same way SWAPA is not USAPA)...."This is only about NWA guys trying to grab seniority back" (it's not and never was).
Didn't DPA have their big push video shooting yesterday in TPA? Wasn't there to be a big turnout? How many turned out? I was told it was 5 people total.
ALPA has issues, but the only way to fix it is to get involved and be a necessary check to the system. ALPA and DALPA have made great lengths and Communication, and that turnout yesterday makes it self evident.
06-05-2013, 03:11 AM
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 269
I think now would be an appropriate time to post an alternative to what we have been getting:
DPA
1. Dues structure: 1st Year = 1.75%, 2nd Year = 1.5%, 3rd Year = 1.25%, 4th Year and beyond = 1%, .5% flex up during negotiations
2. No dues on profit sharing or other bonuses. Flex up dues fully accountable and unused portion returned after contract signed.
3. Dues savings annual average: Captains will save approximately $2,000, First Officers will save approximately $1,400.
4. DPA projects annual dues income of $35,000,000 at 1.75%, $30,000,000 at 1.5%, $25,000,000 at 1.25% and $20,000,000 at 1%
5. With a $15,000,000 annual budget, DPA will amass $35,000,000 excess in two years, more than ALPA’s (uncommitted) MCF total.
6. All dues collected will be used exclusively for Delta Pilot mandates.
7. DPA is now recognized by the IRS as a 501(c)5 Non-Profit Labor Organization. Constitution and By-Laws are posted.
8. DPA has guarantee letters for Aeromedical Services and Insurance products from Harvey Watt, ING and Great Southern Life.
9. The contract remains in force when DPA is certified. DPA will enter the normal negotiating cycle specified in the PWA.
10. DPA has no interest in addressing the Seniority List in any way. We are Delta Pilots working together for our future.
11. DPA uses open surveys with posted results. Delta Pilots can hold DPA accountable for survey results. Unity in purpose.
12. DPA will operate 8 Seniority Blocks of 1,500 pilots each. Each Block will have two Reps who are living those seniority issues.
13. Delta Pilots will VOTE for the DPA President and all other officer/representative positions.
14. Delta Pilots will see resumes and statements of intent for all elected positions including Committee Chair positions.
15. Out of almost 5,400 DPA Members, over 1,700 are ATL based, 1,100 are DTW based, 700 are MSP based and 700 are NYC based.
16. DPA is not “militant”. As an independent union, we hang our hat on Delta’s success. We will enforce a solid contract, however.
17. Professional negotiators will pursue Delta Pilot demands formed through open surveys.
18. All members will have full access to all finances, online, all the time.
19. Members may participate in video-teleconference Seniority Block meetings and be heard. DPA will exploit technology.
20. DPA leaders may not take management jobs for five years after serving the Delta Pilots.
21. Dues dollars will not be used to purchase alcohol at union meetings.
22. DPA is not “angry”, just determined to remove a broken association and achieve what is best/long overdue for Delta Pilots.
23. DPA will not represent any regional carriers. We will pursue all flying under the Delta brand if directed to by the Delta Pilots.
24. DPA will pursue contract improvements in all areas, even if some areas do not generate more dues dollars as a result.
25. DPA is not affiliated with the AFL-CIO or any other entity. Delta Pilots will direct who we affiliate with.
26. DPA leaders will be paid the ALV of the position bid plus a service override. DPA leaders will fly a half line minimum each month.
27. DPA leaders will not have a special pension that the Delta Pilot group does not also have.
28. DPA will be frugal with Delta Pilot dues contributions and seek to return excess to the members through refunds and benefits.
29. DPA will not face lawsuits from other airline pilot groups. There will be no conflicts of interest with other carriers.
30. DPA’s only desire is to exclusively represent the Delta Pilot group in whatever the 11,750 Pilots direct. Period.
Que the ALPA guys who will parrot their only talking points: "With that crazy Tim in charge I would never join the "fringe" group" (even though every single person including the new president will be elected by and for the pilot group)...."USAPA got nowhere and they are one in the same with DPA." (DPA is not USAPA the same way SWAPA is not USAPA)...."This is only about NWA guys trying to grab seniority back" (it's not and never was).
DPA
1. Dues structure: 1st Year = 1.75%, 2nd Year = 1.5%, 3rd Year = 1.25%, 4th Year and beyond = 1%, .5% flex up during negotiations
2. No dues on profit sharing or other bonuses. Flex up dues fully accountable and unused portion returned after contract signed.
3. Dues savings annual average: Captains will save approximately $2,000, First Officers will save approximately $1,400.
4. DPA projects annual dues income of $35,000,000 at 1.75%, $30,000,000 at 1.5%, $25,000,000 at 1.25% and $20,000,000 at 1%
5. With a $15,000,000 annual budget, DPA will amass $35,000,000 excess in two years, more than ALPA’s (uncommitted) MCF total.
6. All dues collected will be used exclusively for Delta Pilot mandates.
7. DPA is now recognized by the IRS as a 501(c)5 Non-Profit Labor Organization. Constitution and By-Laws are posted.
8. DPA has guarantee letters for Aeromedical Services and Insurance products from Harvey Watt, ING and Great Southern Life.
9. The contract remains in force when DPA is certified. DPA will enter the normal negotiating cycle specified in the PWA.
10. DPA has no interest in addressing the Seniority List in any way. We are Delta Pilots working together for our future.
11. DPA uses open surveys with posted results. Delta Pilots can hold DPA accountable for survey results. Unity in purpose.
12. DPA will operate 8 Seniority Blocks of 1,500 pilots each. Each Block will have two Reps who are living those seniority issues.
13. Delta Pilots will VOTE for the DPA President and all other officer/representative positions.
14. Delta Pilots will see resumes and statements of intent for all elected positions including Committee Chair positions.
15. Out of almost 5,400 DPA Members, over 1,700 are ATL based, 1,100 are DTW based, 700 are MSP based and 700 are NYC based.
16. DPA is not “militant”. As an independent union, we hang our hat on Delta’s success. We will enforce a solid contract, however.
17. Professional negotiators will pursue Delta Pilot demands formed through open surveys.
18. All members will have full access to all finances, online, all the time.
19. Members may participate in video-teleconference Seniority Block meetings and be heard. DPA will exploit technology.
20. DPA leaders may not take management jobs for five years after serving the Delta Pilots.
21. Dues dollars will not be used to purchase alcohol at union meetings.
22. DPA is not “angry”, just determined to remove a broken association and achieve what is best/long overdue for Delta Pilots.
23. DPA will not represent any regional carriers. We will pursue all flying under the Delta brand if directed to by the Delta Pilots.
24. DPA will pursue contract improvements in all areas, even if some areas do not generate more dues dollars as a result.
25. DPA is not affiliated with the AFL-CIO or any other entity. Delta Pilots will direct who we affiliate with.
26. DPA leaders will be paid the ALV of the position bid plus a service override. DPA leaders will fly a half line minimum each month.
27. DPA leaders will not have a special pension that the Delta Pilot group does not also have.
28. DPA will be frugal with Delta Pilot dues contributions and seek to return excess to the members through refunds and benefits.
29. DPA will not face lawsuits from other airline pilot groups. There will be no conflicts of interest with other carriers.
30. DPA’s only desire is to exclusively represent the Delta Pilot group in whatever the 11,750 Pilots direct. Period.
Que the ALPA guys who will parrot their only talking points: "With that crazy Tim in charge I would never join the "fringe" group" (even though every single person including the new president will be elected by and for the pilot group)...."USAPA got nowhere and they are one in the same with DPA." (DPA is not USAPA the same way SWAPA is not USAPA)...."This is only about NWA guys trying to grab seniority back" (it's not and never was).
Emirates Seeks Global Supremacy With A380s Flying Asia-US Routes - Bloomberg
06-05-2013, 03:26 AM
The Brown Dot +1
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How is DPA gonna work to stop this?
Emirates Seeks Global Supremacy With A380s Flying Asia-US Routes - Bloomberg
Emirates Seeks Global Supremacy With A380s Flying Asia-US Routes - Bloomberg
With the codeshares/JVs ballooning around us, plus a push for us to get behind the (failed) JAL deal, are you saying ALPA is going to stop it?
Now GOL and Aeromexico are going to be 100% skyteam...Coming to a concourse E near you...
You aren't serious are you?
ALPA has done nothing but encourage the outsourcing of our jobs...FAIL Epically.
I remember well a couple of apologists saying the old quote of being bloodied in battle...blah, blah. Hindsight is 20/20 DALPAs strategeery is non-existent, and a massive failure.
06-05-2013, 03:43 AM
Can't abide NAI
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New name for concessionary alter ego operation, their (our) new jets have already begun arriving. My 0h my that was fast given management was telling everyone they were going to be shut down ....
Pinnacle Airlines changes name to Endeavor Air, will vote on new logo
June 4, 2013
Delta subsidiary Pinnacle Airlines announced it will change its name to Endeavor Air and has asked its employees to choose a new logo for the Minneapolis/St. Paul-based carrier.
Pinnacle President Ryan Gumm said in a memo to employees on Friday that Endeavor Air was chosen because it evokes an image of innovation, excitement and the adventure of a journey.
“Endeavor Air describes our mission to strive for excellence and captures not only the extraordinary efforts we’ve made, but also those that are still ahead of us. ‘To endeavor’ is to describe aviation from its very beginning,” Gumm said in the memo. “Endeavor Air represents the starting point for redefining our airline and from here we will blend the best of what we know with new ideas aimed at making Endeavor Air the best place to work in the regional industry.”
Pinnacle has completed its headquarters relocation employees to the Twin Cities late last week. Ryan and the leadership team hosted nearly 300 employees at a luncheon to celebrate their move to the new headquarters.
Gumm reflected on the milestones the group has achieved along the way. “We have had several mountains to climb but also a number of achievements to celebrate along the way -- we have a new headquarters location, new name, and new logo to launch.”
Pinnacle employees will start voting early this week and the unveiling of the new logo will occur June 26 during the Endeavor Air ribbon-cutting ceremony at Building C – Tower location in Minneapolis.
Separately last week the airline received the first of 40 CRJ-900 aircraft.
June 4, 2013
Delta subsidiary Pinnacle Airlines announced it will change its name to Endeavor Air and has asked its employees to choose a new logo for the Minneapolis/St. Paul-based carrier.
Pinnacle President Ryan Gumm said in a memo to employees on Friday that Endeavor Air was chosen because it evokes an image of innovation, excitement and the adventure of a journey.
“Endeavor Air describes our mission to strive for excellence and captures not only the extraordinary efforts we’ve made, but also those that are still ahead of us. ‘To endeavor’ is to describe aviation from its very beginning,” Gumm said in the memo. “Endeavor Air represents the starting point for redefining our airline and from here we will blend the best of what we know with new ideas aimed at making Endeavor Air the best place to work in the regional industry.”
Pinnacle has completed its headquarters relocation employees to the Twin Cities late last week. Ryan and the leadership team hosted nearly 300 employees at a luncheon to celebrate their move to the new headquarters.
Gumm reflected on the milestones the group has achieved along the way. “We have had several mountains to climb but also a number of achievements to celebrate along the way -- we have a new headquarters location, new name, and new logo to launch.”
Pinnacle employees will start voting early this week and the unveiling of the new logo will occur June 26 during the Endeavor Air ribbon-cutting ceremony at Building C – Tower location in Minneapolis.
Separately last week the airline received the first of 40 CRJ-900 aircraft.
06-05-2013, 03:50 AM
Can't abide NAI
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In related news ... Memphis down. Former NWA and Delta managers say CVG next.
I expect MSP, and to a lesser extent DTW, to be shifted towards the Next Gen RJ's.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...nclick_check=1
I expect MSP, and to a lesser extent DTW, to be shifted towards the Next Gen RJ's.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...nclick_check=1
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