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06-04-2013, 03:00 PM
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06-04-2013, 03:04 PM
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Don't see it. I beg of you, for all things holy, stay away. Worst movie I've seen in a long, long time. Don't see it, rent it, borrow it. If you're on a layover in DAY, and it's on HBO, change the channel to QVC. Run away.
Fuel dump valves. Back up hydraulics. Manual control flight control handles. Winglets. GPWS warnings at FL 300. "Say, I love you, Trevor." Squirrel shots. John Goodman.
Don't do it.
Fuel dump valves. Back up hydraulics. Manual control flight control handles. Winglets. GPWS warnings at FL 300. "Say, I love you, Trevor." Squirrel shots. John Goodman.
Don't do it.
It was physically painful to watch.
06-04-2013, 03:06 PM
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Based on what is being communicated now, it sounds like backpeddling for hiring even in 2014.
Those of you who say the "overstaffing" situation and fleet adjustments were not known while ALPA/Management were selling the daylights out of C2012 (which included large productivity gains which stymies hiring) with "we may begin the hiring process in fall 2012" are not being honest with yourselves or your fellow pilots.
Read paragraph 5 and 6 of the latest Crew Planning memo. "While the plan is still preliminary...." "...hiring has not been authorized at this time, and with a surplus of pilots at a system level we have to utilize our existing pilot staffing. As a result, we must displace now in order to staff the hours that Network has given us."
Those of you who say the "overstaffing" situation and fleet adjustments were not known while ALPA/Management were selling the daylights out of C2012 (which included large productivity gains which stymies hiring) with "we may begin the hiring process in fall 2012" are not being honest with yourselves or your fellow pilots.
Read paragraph 5 and 6 of the latest Crew Planning memo. "While the plan is still preliminary...." "...hiring has not been authorized at this time, and with a surplus of pilots at a system level we have to utilize our existing pilot staffing. As a result, we must displace now in order to staff the hours that Network has given us."
06-04-2013, 03:08 PM
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MD-80: "Not at all."
Center: "Yeah - I didn't think so."
MD-80: "Our stews aren't nearly that hot."
We got a good laugh out of that.
06-04-2013, 03:11 PM
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06-04-2013, 03:30 PM
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Also how much productivity on a permantly decreased head count would we be conceding?
A further concern with LGBP is it would incentify WB outsourcing. Some might say who cares so long as we get paid what a WB does which is questionable to begin with, but as soon as we become domestic feed for outsourced international on the top and jumbo shrimp RJ's on the bottom we could be facilitating
serious staffing surpluses.
It's not just pay, but also growth and the ability to upgrade. LGBP is fine as long as I've got mine and don't think I'm going any further.
06-04-2013, 03:30 PM
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Don't see it. I beg of you, for all things holy, stay away. Worst movie I've seen in a long, long time. Don't see it, rent it, borrow it. If you're on a layover in DAY, and it's on HBO, change the channel to QVC. Run away.
Fuel dump valves. Back up hydraulics. Manual control flight control handles. Winglets. GPWS warnings at FL 300. "Say, I love you, Trevor." Squirrel shots. John Goodman.
Don't do it.
Fuel dump valves. Back up hydraulics. Manual control flight control handles. Winglets. GPWS warnings at FL 300. "Say, I love you, Trevor." Squirrel shots. John Goodman.
Don't do it.
Cheers
George
06-04-2013, 03:32 PM
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You should see their new office a few blocks from the WH...
Emirates Seeks Global Supremacy With A380s Flying Asia-US Routes - Bloomberg
Will we fight or retreat and code share? Got PAC?
Emirates Seeks Global Supremacy With A380s Flying Asia-US Routes - Bloomberg
Will we fight or retreat and code share? Got PAC?
06-04-2013, 03:35 PM
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06-04-2013, 03:41 PM
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And what makes you so sure the agragate composite LGBP wouldn't be dumbing down of the current agragate pay rates based on type?
Also how much productivity on a permantly decreased head count would we be conceding?
A further concern with LGBP is it would incentify WB outsourcing. Some might say who cares so long as we get paid what a WB does which is questionable to begin with, but as soon as we become domestic feed for outsourced international on the top and jumbo shrimp RJ's on the bottom we could be facilitating
serious staffing surpluses.
It's not just pay, but also growth and the ability to upgrade. LGBP is fine as long as I've got mine and don't think I'm going any further.
Also how much productivity on a permantly decreased head count would we be conceding?
A further concern with LGBP is it would incentify WB outsourcing. Some might say who cares so long as we get paid what a WB does which is questionable to begin with, but as soon as we become domestic feed for outsourced international on the top and jumbo shrimp RJ's on the bottom we could be facilitating
serious staffing surpluses.
It's not just pay, but also growth and the ability to upgrade. LGBP is fine as long as I've got mine and don't think I'm going any further.
I have said this before and I will say it again...within the current union there is no long term strategy to convert the job back into a profession. You want a sign? Giving/selling productivity work rules to the pilot ranks during times of record profits, hampering movement across the board. There's your sign.
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