Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-03-2013, 12:09 PM
The Brown Dot +1
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Seems to me that they're trying to get some of the more senior ER guys to get off their lazy butts and bid small narrow body capt. There may be some super premium WB FOz that will do that too (but I doubt very many) which will leave some openings for more ER movement.
Don't know..................I've been wrong the last 2.
Ferd
Don't know..................I've been wrong the last 2.
Ferd
Those A seats are going to be bid, not displaced to...Not everybody has been on their lazy butts as long as you and me. They might have been flying Int'l just long enough to have forgotten what an -88 schedule looks like, but not so long that they forgot how to do all the stuff you have to do on a leg between ATL and HSV in 17 minutes flying 260 degrees.
06-03-2013, 12:55 PM
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06-03-2013, 01:09 PM
Runs with scissors
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Totally agree el Ferdmeister...
Those A seats are going to be bid, not displaced to...Not everybody has been on their lazy butts as long as you and me. They might have been flying Int'l just long enough to have forgotten what an -88 schedule looks like, but not so long that they forgot how to do all the stuff you have to do on a leg between ATL and HSV in 17 minutes flying 260 degrees.
Those A seats are going to be bid, not displaced to...Not everybody has been on their lazy butts as long as you and me. They might have been flying Int'l just long enough to have forgotten what an -88 schedule looks like, but not so long that they forgot how to do all the stuff you have to do on a leg between ATL and HSV in 17 minutes flying 260 degrees.
Why would you want to work 15 days a month, 5 legs a day with 9 hr. layovers, when you can work 12 days a month, 6 legs total, for nearly the same pay, with a 24 hr. layover every where you go...
Oh, and you get to fly with ME!
06-03-2013, 01:27 PM
Da Hudge
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From the April Memo:
Going forward, we envision posting smaller but more frequent bids. Future bids will primarily contain vacancies
to add staffing for additional mainline aircraft deliveries, including the 717 and 739, as well as backfilling
openings created by pilot attrition. The March 2013 bid should be our final clean-up before entering into the
more frequent bid phase.
I guess 107 vacancies and 100 displacements counts as primarily vacancies?
06-03-2013, 01:30 PM
Gets Weekends Off
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That appears to be the case. I remembered him parroting a similar line a number of times.
From the April Memo:
Going forward, we envision posting smaller but more frequent bids. Future bids will primarily contain vacancies
to add staffing for additional mainline aircraft deliveries, including the 717 and 739, as well as backfilling
openings created by pilot attrition. The March 2013 bid should be our final clean-up before entering into the
more frequent bid phase.
I guess 107 vacancies and 100 displacements counts as primarily vacancies?
From the April Memo:
Going forward, we envision posting smaller but more frequent bids. Future bids will primarily contain vacancies
to add staffing for additional mainline aircraft deliveries, including the 717 and 739, as well as backfilling
openings created by pilot attrition. The March 2013 bid should be our final clean-up before entering into the
more frequent bid phase.
I guess 107 vacancies and 100 displacements counts as primarily vacancies?
06-03-2013, 01:37 PM
Da Hudge
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I think your going to find that with the long planned retirements on the 757 there will be displacements off that aircraft on most bids. The key is the gain of 77 more Captains slots. This puts us over 275 new Captains in the last 12 months. As long as they are adding Captains then hiring has to follow as the surplus of FO's moves to CA slots.
Chew on that one for a few.
06-03-2013, 01:48 PM
Gets Weekends Off
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Why does it matter. Its a net gain in Captains now. The past is the past. If they don't move back up to a Captains seat then those FO's who have never been a Captain certainly are not moving back up. Not even sure what your point is other then the last 12 years were crappy for the airline industry.
06-03-2013, 02:06 PM
No longer cares
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Pretty junior actually, but lives in base, so sitting SC is no big deal. HE was home a LOT. Look at the numbers. The NY 7ER FOs are waaaaay overstaffed.. have been for months
06-03-2013, 02:27 PM
Da Hudge
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...nevermind
06-03-2013, 03:08 PM
Gets Weekends Off
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Who cares what a guy could hold back in 1998, or 1988, or 1958? Who cares if "a captain could buy a Cadillac with a month's salary" back in 1971? What is going on today, and how can we best move forward are the only truly important questions. Anything else is a waste of intellectual energy.
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