Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-01-2013, 07:27 PM
Da Hudge
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I think the 900 was mentioned as a 757/320/767 replacement.
In so many ways, there is no such thing as an MD-88 replacement... or at least a press release on it. They just said a few years back the jets were at their half life, hey, look, a
We're getting 717s!? Cool.
I'm so glad we said yes so that we got those things. Could you imagine if we had said no and Delta told SWA no thanks, we'll keep our 50 seaters.
What were talking about? MD-88s?
In so many ways, there is no such thing as an MD-88 replacement... or at least a press release on it. They just said a few years back the jets were at their half life, hey, look, a
We're getting 717s!? Cool.
I'm so glad we said yes so that we got those things. Could you imagine if we had said no and Delta told SWA no thanks, we'll keep our 50 seaters.
What were talking about? MD-88s?
Somehow I forgot the 767 and replaced that with MD88. One of them is going to run me down tomorrow now, I feel it... +717!!
06-01-2013, 07:28 PM
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If they plan on dumping the 88's its funny they just signed a contract to put a bunch of money into the aircraft. So far the company has followed through 100 percent on the fleet plan they talked about when the contract was signed. The talk about the 757 retirements on here I find a bit surprising. Everyone acts like its something new. Its the exact fleet plan the company presented. The 100 737's were always discussed as replacement only aircraft. The 30 additional options were discussed as possible growth airframes. It now looks possible they company will take those airframes or take 30 A321's. We will know in September. If in fact they take those airframes the fleet projections will improve from the current plan of 796 to somewhere North of 820 not counting any possible wide bodies. I have some personal doubts on the widebody order because I think it hinges on routes to China we may or may not get.
There is also some consideration to slowing the 757 retirement more however it would not be to increase the fleet. It would be to convert the last 40 737's over to the max version which would delay those deliveries. I suspect fuel prices trends over the next 2 years will make that decision for the company.
There is also some consideration to slowing the 757 retirement more however it would not be to increase the fleet. It would be to convert the last 40 737's over to the max version which would delay those deliveries. I suspect fuel prices trends over the next 2 years will make that decision for the company.
06-01-2013, 07:35 PM
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Which previous wrong post would you like me to read sailingfun? This wrong post:
Or this wrong post from March 2013:
First of all, I never bet on anything. Second, if I ever did, I would never bet with you. You're incapable of admitting you're wrong. You just change the subject, throw out false figures, then go radio silent. Why would anyone bet anything with a person like that?
Rather than making a fool of yourself, try to get things right when you post. It'll do wonders for your reputation.
Carl
Rather than making a fool of yourself, try to get things right when you post. It'll do wonders for your reputation.
Carl
06-01-2013, 07:38 PM
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If they plan on dumping the 88's its funny they just signed a contract to put a bunch of money into the aircraft. So far the company has followed through 100 percent on the fleet plan they talked about when the contract was signed. The talk about the 757 retirements on here I find a bit surprising. Everyone acts like its something new. Its the exact fleet plan the company presented. The 100 737's were always discussed as replacement only aircraft. The 30 additional options were discussed as possible growth airframes. It now looks possible they company will take those airframes or take 30 A321's. We will know in September. If in fact they take those airframes the fleet projections will improve from the current plan of 796 to somewhere North of 820 not counting any possible wide bodies. I have some personal doubts on the widebody order because I think it hinges on routes to China we may or may not get.
There is also some consideration to slowing the 757 retirement more however it would not be to increase the fleet. It would be to convert the last 40 737's over to the max version which would delay those deliveries. I suspect fuel prices trends over the next 2 years will make that decision for the company.
There is also some consideration to slowing the 757 retirement more however it would not be to increase the fleet. It would be to convert the last 40 737's over to the max version which would delay those deliveries. I suspect fuel prices trends over the next 2 years will make that decision for the company.
06-01-2013, 07:42 PM
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If they plan on dumping the 88's its funny they just signed a contract to put a bunch of money into the aircraft. So far the company has followed through 100 percent on the fleet plan they talked about when the contract was signed. The talk about the 757 retirements on here I find a bit surprising. Everyone acts like its something new. Its the exact fleet plan the company presented. The 100 737's were always discussed as replacement only aircraft. The 30 additional options were discussed as possible growth airframes. It now looks possible they company will take those airframes or take 30 A321's. We will know in September. If in fact they take those airframes the fleet projections will improve from the current plan of 796 to somewhere North of 820 not counting any possible wide bodies. I have some personal doubts on the widebody order because I think it hinges on routes to China we may or may not get.
There is also some consideration to slowing the 757 retirement more however it would not be to increase the fleet. It would be to convert the last 40 737's over to the max version which would delay those deliveries. I suspect fuel prices trends over the next 2 years will make that decision for the company.
There is also some consideration to slowing the 757 retirement more however it would not be to increase the fleet. It would be to convert the last 40 737's over to the max version which would delay those deliveries. I suspect fuel prices trends over the next 2 years will make that decision for the company.
As to parking the 88, anything can happen as far as I'm concerned. And who was it here the other day that mentioned the new cockpits would be installed on the 90 first before being installed on the by that point nearly 30 year old MD88s. I'm skeptical.
BTW, given our love for capacity discipline, where all of these domestic jets going to go? To replace the 5000 or so net lost seats from the parking of the CR2s?
06-01-2013, 07:43 PM
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I predict we'll hire 2000 pilots.
At some point. To replace 2300 pilots.
At some point. To replace 2300 pilots.
06-01-2013, 07:54 PM
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Also, I've asked you to post the block hour plan that you've stated is "out there". Can you not find it?
Carl
06-01-2013, 08:19 PM
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Can anyone confirm that DAL is not hiring untill Fall of 2014?
06-01-2013, 08:22 PM
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Current mgmt plans state new bodies on property in January, 2014. Subject to change, of course. Given the current short state of bodies we have, I think it could trend sooner rather than later.
Of course, flows, recalls, and the pinnacle interview will dampen the amount of off the street hires for a little bit, but they will exist.
Of course, flows, recalls, and the pinnacle interview will dampen the amount of off the street hires for a little bit, but they will exist.
06-01-2013, 10:21 PM
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Current mgmt plans state new bodies on property in January, 2014. Subject to change, of course. Given the current short state of bodies we have, I think it could trend sooner rather than later.
Of course, flows, recalls, and the Endeavor interview will dampen the amount of off the street hires for a little bit, but they will exist.
Of course, flows, recalls, and the Endeavor interview will dampen the amount of off the street hires for a little bit, but they will exist.
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