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Old 06-01-2013, 03:01 PM
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Yikes

The winds were only 050 at 5.

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This guy got tarred and feathered off the Pinnacle thread, so I guess he's going to crap all over the Delta thread now.

Well, better than the ALPA propagandists, I guess.
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Old 06-01-2013, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
This guy got tarred and feathered off the Pinnacle thread, so I guess he's going to crap all over the Delta thread now.

Well, better than the ALPA propagandists, I guess.
Do you really think I feathered off? I thought it was an interesting video, one of those caught on cam things. I dont have anything to crap on Delta, they are a good airline.
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Old 06-01-2013, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The block hour plan has been put out several times. As the block hours shift from DCI to the mainline the year over year increases become greater and greater. Without the recent RFP's the company quarterly reports show us increasing from a low of 708 aircraft to 796 aircraft over the next 3.5 years.
Could you post it then please?

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Old 06-01-2013, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Just went to "The Left Seat" 2 weeks ago. Good stuff, really enjoyed it. Talked to 767/757 fleet guys and they said that we are going down to 60 757's soon!!!!! I'm assuming he meant -200's and not including the -ER's from TWA. VERY dissapointed to hear that. To be replaced by an underpowered 737. Our dear 757's are twice the jet a 73 is!!!!!


I want to do some math, standby.


Depending on how they do it and if that's all they do, going down to 60 B757s while sucky for pilots because we love the plane, it would not necessarily mean we shrunk.

That's as long as the 90 lost B757s are replaced by 140 jets (100 B739s and 40 A321s).

Because assume we add 88 B717s, 40 A321s, 100 739s, keep all of the A320s (maybe) and all we lose is 90 757s then we're still ahead by a good bit. In fact, way ahead. We'd actually have a half percent growth in ASMs YOY for five years (say thats how long it takes to make a transition) but we'd have increased the fleet size 128 jets. I can live with that.

But thats assuming we don't lose any other cough MD88 cough airplanes.

And that's assuming we go for frequency with mainline over reduced frequency. It could also mean we're expanding the west coast... which would mean the Alaska codeshare was after all hurting us in a bad way.

Anyways, the ratio I calculate is 1.9. Ah... just imagine if 1.9 had been the baseline instead of a much much lower status quo 1.56.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:06 PM
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Of course if they meant a total of 60 B752s and 753s... I didn't calculate that.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


I want to do some math, standby.


Depending on how they do it and if that's all they do, going down to 60 B757s while sucky for pilots because we love the plane, it would not necessarily mean we shrunk.

That's as long as the 90 lost B757s are replaced by 140 jets (100 B739s and 40 A321s).

Because assume we add 88 B717s, 40 A321s, 100 739s, keep all of the A320s (maybe) and all we lose is 90 757s then we're still ahead by a good bit. In fact, way ahead. We'd actually have a half percent growth in ASMs YOY for five years (say thats how long it takes to make a transition) but we'd have increased the fleet size 128 jets. I can live with that.

But thats assuming we don't lose any other cough MD88 cough airplanes.

And that's assuming we go for frequency with mainline over reduced frequency. It could also mean we're expanding the west coast... which would mean the Alaska codeshare was after all hurting us in a bad way.

Anyways, the ratio I calculate is 1.9. Ah... just imagine if 1.9 had been the baseline instead of a much much lower status quo 1.56.
So none of the older A320's are going away now? What other airplanes could be on the chopping block? I have a hard time believing "shrink to profitability" Ed and RA are going to grow Delta Air Lines mainline (excluding JV's, Code Shares, Semi Code Shares, Delta Connection, etc). This, based upon historical data which seems to form a pattern.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
What do you mean ala NWA...this is NWA.

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Nah, we did not have the chain of command bs getting in the way.
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Nah, we did not have the chain of command bs getting in the way.
I stand corrected.

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Old 06-01-2013, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
So none of the older A320's are going away now? What other airplanes could be on the chopping block? I have a hard time believing "shrink to profitability" Ed and RA are going to grow Delta Air Lines mainline (excluding JV's, Code Shares, Semi Code Shares, Delta Connection, etc). This, based upon historical data which seems to form a pattern.
Oh me too goop.

I don't know if all the 320s got a life extension and call me a pessimist but I just think 1.56 was chosen because 1.56 is the plan. 60 757s and 0 MD88s left equals about 1.5677. Give or take.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
...which would mean the Alaska codeshare was after all hurting us in a bad way.
If that ends up being the case (and I think it is), what excuses should we allow our former "strategic thinkers" who so often came here to tell us how important the Alaska code share is to Delta? Will the excuse of: "hey, we were only telling you what management told us to say" be OK with us?

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