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Old 05-31-2013, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Or how about the mad pug?
But its got to fit and by all accounts its a happy little plane. What's a happy little dog? That's right, there's no such thing.
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
B-717..................

I have heard some names MiniDog etc......


But I kind of like "kick dog".........

"Delta 234, ATL ground. Left on Dixie Left on E and follow the company kickdog 8L"

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I think we need to let the DC-9 and -88 drivers name it after they start flying it. Then they can tell us if it's a "dog" or a "puppy" in comparison.
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Or how about the mad pug?
What about "mutt"?
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:55 PM
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When I try and explain to my friends what I am going to be flying I just tell them it's the Barbie Fun Jet. (borrowed from the old F100)
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:56 PM
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What about "mutt"?
I like mad mutt!
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:58 PM
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And it kind of is a mutt. Like a DC9 bred with a MD88 and something with glass....like a B737.
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Old 05-31-2013, 09:18 PM
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Great stuff!

Now, here's a question for anyone, are we in position to go toe-to-toe with Alaska? Have we won the west coast HVCs over via the codeshare? How would A321s work into such a ploy?

Another question, why are they upset about Alaska being code share *****s willing to hook up with anyone who can fill their jets and helping our competition? Wasn't that obvious before? Isn't that what outsourcing regional service to the lowest bidder has been about? Skywest? RAH? ExpressJet now? And so on. Now it's finally a bad thing?

Sad to see even if hiring kicks in, it'll be a little slow. I'm very curious though, are they changing their minds on how quickly and large the 717 needs to be staffed up? Sounds like to me they're going to curtail it? But then again they wanted to be aggressive because of the aggressive delivery schedule and reduced training capacity... then again there were rumors the airplane was going to be delayed?

I'm still curious about SD's wording about we've received additional clarity and will adjust accordingly?


Bingo! Alaska is great when they fly our customers but they are bottom feeding scum when they fly passengers for other airlines? Alaska is looking out for Alaska as they should be. If properly manged Delta shouldn't have to count on other airlines. We pi$$ed away the west coast after the Western merger and now we are dependent on other airlines.

Kind of hard not to get burned in this business when you have to count on and depend upon more than 10 other companies/competitors - I guess our management was absent that day in business school.

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Old 06-01-2013, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Classic changing of the subject when you are yet again shown to be shilling for some unknown reason. Here is what you posted:



I know of no Delta pilots who don't know that we're carrying a large surplus of pilots. Except as I stated earlier, the 3 summer months during which everyone is white slipping and green slipping.

The subject is your false statement that you're waiting for someone to explain why we don't have a massive surplus of pilots. You already know we do have a large surplus. Nearly every Delta pilot knows it too. Why you state this stuff is the only question. You know better.

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Carl, Our surplus of pilots is less this year then last year. Please explain that when the block hours are the same? With the massive job loss you claim we should have a surplus this summer. The company should have no need to have any ALV past 78. Read the above post about how short they actually are. With the same number of block hours this summer as last summer why did flight ops want to hire? I mean they have hundreds if not thousands of surplus pilots.
I guess the answer on the bet is no which means you don't even believe what you post.
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Old 06-01-2013, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ITSALLGOOD
Had a chance to talk today with someone "in the know." Not a lot of new info but he reinforced some things many already believe and offered some fresh insight. Here is what he had to say on key topics...

Background: The primary objective this year is a $2Bn profit and debt below $10Bn. FltOps asked for new pilots in Jan but were told to wait until finance could run the numbers. In March, Finance calculated there was a better than 50% chance the costs of hiring would exceed any costs associated with tight manning. It is now generally accepted among management they calculated WRONG! Expect a summer full of GS, IAs and Rolling Thunder like never before. That leads to the AE...

AE: By the time the right people figured out the extent of the staffing problem (SD had been telling RA since Jan) it was too late to fix it with hiring. My source does not know the specifics of this AE other than it is partly a desperate attempt to curtail at least some of the scheduling carnage currently foreseen. It will also serve to get as many people in place as possible in order to put most of the new hires into the 717. The last big hiring cycle saw a lot of new hires going straight to the 7er. That created a seniority imbalance with wide ranging implications. They want to avoid this in the future. So what about hiring...

Hiring: Barring an economic catastrophe, We MUST begin hiring no later than Jan 14. Hiring folks were told today that if 3rd Qtr numbers are solid and RA feels the profit and debt goals are assured, they should be prepared to start recalls/flows this fall. Contrary to some other info that has been out there, the hiring will be relatively slow (recalls plus 20-30 flows per month with minimal off-the-street) to start and won't pick up until the second half of 14. The massive hiring will be well under way by Jan 15 and continue for many years.

AS: Execs are very unhappy with AS. "They are code share Wh@*&s willing to hook up with anyone who can fill their A/C" (his words). They are helping our competitors while claiming to be our partner. The DAL capacity being dropped on their core routes is both a statement of protest and a real effort to begin to wean off AS feed. In his opinion, we can only continue 3-4 more years in the current arrangement. We will have to be in a position to buy AS or go toe-to-toe with them by then. So what about SEA and LAX...

We will continue to see slow but steady growth in SEA. There are numerous routes we would like to serve in LAX, but we are running into dead ends trying to get gates. The most preferred option now is a swap with UAL - our underutilized ORD gates for their T6 gates. Unfortunately, those negotiations are moving very slowly.

Now you know all I know...that and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee...maybe.

Your hearing exactly what I have heard from good sources. Now Carl is hearing something very different so who knows!
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Old 06-01-2013, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I think we need to let the DC-9 and -88 drivers name it after they start flying it. Then they can tell us if it's a "dog" or a "puppy" in comparison.
I think Minidog will be the winner.

It certainly isn't a "dog" - tons of power. Flies like a MD90 with 'roid rage.
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