Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-31-2013, 05:23 AM
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It must add to the complexity that many of the pilots returning are relatively senior, post merger, and able to take positions which result in the need to displace pilots to staff junior positions.
So how many are being pushed off 330, 7ER and 737 to staff "new hire" positions? How will they ever get them trained in time?
When our SLI was complete it was observed many pilots on bypass would gain a windfall on their return. DC9 reserve / junior lineholder was now 7ER lineholder with restoration of some longevity. For those caught below, it adds up to another couple of years of downward movement or stagnation.
As usual, the "good deal" is one year away. Wonder if the Company is still doing one year LOA's?
So how many are being pushed off 330, 7ER and 737 to staff "new hire" positions? How will they ever get them trained in time?
When our SLI was complete it was observed many pilots on bypass would gain a windfall on their return. DC9 reserve / junior lineholder was now 7ER lineholder with restoration of some longevity. For those caught below, it adds up to another couple of years of downward movement or stagnation.
As usual, the "good deal" is one year away. Wonder if the Company is still doing one year LOA's?
05-31-2013, 05:28 AM
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05-31-2013, 05:33 AM
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It's time to launch Spacklair, Carl. Here is your chance:
2012 BOEING 747-8 Jet Aircraft For Sale At Controller.com
2012 BOEING 747-8 Jet Aircraft For Sale At Controller.com
Friend at Boeing tells me that two of the 747-8i's were for private owners. I wonder if this is one of those?
Carl
05-31-2013, 05:34 AM
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05-31-2013, 06:42 AM
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05-31-2013, 08:44 AM
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FWIW. Overheard conversation in Atl crew lounge between 2 fo's so it must be true
"Per 320 fleet capt. The first batch of 320s got life extension and are staying, greater than 50% chance of 321s, and 10 330s coming all growth, and hiring starting no later than late 2013". And the pool of pilots (due to the new 1500 hr rule) only enough for about 5 years of hiring at all the majors. Don't shoot the messenger.
"Per 320 fleet capt. The first batch of 320s got life extension and are staying, greater than 50% chance of 321s, and 10 330s coming all growth, and hiring starting no later than late 2013". And the pool of pilots (due to the new 1500 hr rule) only enough for about 5 years of hiring at all the majors. Don't shoot the messenger.
05-31-2013, 09:01 AM
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It must add to the complexity that many of the pilots returning are relatively senior, post merger, and able to take positions which result in the need to displace pilots to staff junior positions.
So how many are being pushed off 330, 7ER and 737 to staff "new hire" positions? How will they ever get them trained in time?
When our SLI was complete it was observed many pilots on bypass would gain a windfall on their return. DC9 reserve / junior lineholder was now 7ER lineholder with restoration of some longevity. For those caught below, it adds up to another couple of years of downward movement or stagnation.
As usual, the "good deal" is one year away. Wonder if the Company is still doing one year LOA's?
So how many are being pushed off 330, 7ER and 737 to staff "new hire" positions? How will they ever get them trained in time?
When our SLI was complete it was observed many pilots on bypass would gain a windfall on their return. DC9 reserve / junior lineholder was now 7ER lineholder with restoration of some longevity. For those caught below, it adds up to another couple of years of downward movement or stagnation.
As usual, the "good deal" is one year away. Wonder if the Company is still doing one year LOA's?
05-31-2013, 09:11 AM
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I'm very curious about an out of the blue AE 2-3 months earlier than advertised and dropped with no notice.
If its another staffing neutral "funding" then where exactly are the "excess" pilots coming from? After this last AE we're just not fat enough for another self funding AE anywhere unless its coming from accelerated parking or under-utilization somewhere else.
The 717 from the last bid still has unfilled positions because they couldn't draw down from other fleets. If this one is self funding it would have to be an extremely myopic targeted "one from here, two from there" and even then what's the reasoning behind the sudden accelerated no notice AE dropped on us 2-3 months before the one they were going to do anyway?
The timing of this one really makes it look like we're either going to hire soon or keep shrinking to profitability.
If its another staffing neutral "funding" then where exactly are the "excess" pilots coming from? After this last AE we're just not fat enough for another self funding AE anywhere unless its coming from accelerated parking or under-utilization somewhere else.
The 717 from the last bid still has unfilled positions because they couldn't draw down from other fleets. If this one is self funding it would have to be an extremely myopic targeted "one from here, two from there" and even then what's the reasoning behind the sudden accelerated no notice AE dropped on us 2-3 months before the one they were going to do anyway?
The timing of this one really makes it look like we're either going to hire soon or keep shrinking to profitability.
05-31-2013, 09:12 AM
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