Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-22-2013, 06:47 PM
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On this we disagree. Carl wrote this back in 2008 after the SLI was public - his attitude change came slightly later:
I agree Jiffy. If you would have told us 8 months ago that we would have:
1. A closed corporate merger agreement with DOJ approval
2. A joint pilot working agreement
3. A combined seniority list
4. A pilot group NOT talking about suing each other but working together, and...
5. All this would happen by December of this year...
I would have thought you and anyone who agreed with you was nuts. In my opinion, this is a real testament to Lee Moak and the Delta MEC, the Northwest MEC, and the adult intellect of most DAL/NWA pilots.
I'm very proud of this group. Very proud indeed!
Carl
1. A closed corporate merger agreement with DOJ approval
2. A joint pilot working agreement
3. A combined seniority list
4. A pilot group NOT talking about suing each other but working together, and...
5. All this would happen by December of this year...
I would have thought you and anyone who agreed with you was nuts. In my opinion, this is a real testament to Lee Moak and the Delta MEC, the Northwest MEC, and the adult intellect of most DAL/NWA pilots.
I'm very proud of this group. Very proud indeed!
Carl
Carl
05-22-2013, 07:05 PM
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Carl vs Sailing
Rumor has it the first group of IP's and LCA will get some seat time in a subleased Tranny 717 some time next week.
Now back to your regularly scheduled he said she said ***** fest!
Now back to your regularly scheduled he said she said ***** fest!
05-22-2013, 07:07 PM
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If you were only DALN/747/SLI centric, it'd been apparent by now. But I don't think anyone who reads this site would doubt your issue is with the union system. Truth is, for a long time you've stoop up and said "I don't think the union is right on or about XYZ" and you pleaded your case to the masses here, I never got a whiff of let's do the impossible and change the SLI.
05-22-2013, 07:11 PM
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Random FWIW
I’ve got a question for you guys. What trajectory are we on as a pilot group? I think I know what we’re doing as a company (and I’ll explain below about something I’ve learned recently), but what about as a pilot group?
And I don’t mean where do we want to go but rather what path has our recent past actions put us on? The PWA, MOUs, LOAs, IOUs and whatever else we’ve done collectively; where is that sending us?
Because no matter how much you proclaim that you’re flying to Stuttgart, if you takeoff out of JFK and head west for 1,000 miles and refuse to change headings, you’re obviously not on the path you think you're on. So where are we headed based on what we've done?
The reason I ask is because I think it's easy to tell where we're going as an airline. I heard a speaker and author today who says he’s done work with Delta, and I think it gives an insightful picture into what we're doing marketing wise. And it’s not complicated, but sometimes you don’t really see it.
To summarize the guy as I [FTB] see it, be like Steve Job’s Apple. Although the author never says that, what he does say is you should aim to share a passionate purpose with your customers, like Apple does. Not a passionate one night stand but a rich marriage that has the type of commitment, intimacy and passion that has you madly committed to each other until death do you part.
Basically, the type of marriage you’d wanted to have had with a young Brooke Shields, back in the day.
[know your audiences age right?]
You can imagine if she was everything you wanted her to be that you'd probably had the kind of love and slavish devotion that would have had you more interested in skyping all day in your hotel room than going out on the town on your 48 hour Prague layover. In the business world you see that type of slavish mad love when it comes to Apple fans lining up outside a store for days to be the first to get the next tiny inferior iphone and completely shun everything else. I think companies look around, see Apple, and say I want that. Or; “I’ll have what she’s having.”
And so companies are trying to figure out ways to build that type of commitment and relationship with their customers and I don't think Delta is any different. Now, if you wanted to apply this authors work to Delta the first thing he asked was for you to figure out- who were you originally? Given that most of the time companies start small and full of passion and grow from there but get lost along the way. So let's look back and see who was Delta originally when it was full of passion?
Well, we were the first to use airplanes to kill rodents in the south. We noticed that other people also had airplanes. And we noticed people liked to fly on those airplanes to go places. We had airplanes. We decided to fly people places. And it worked well for 7 decades while gas was a nickel a gallon and it was naturally easy to love your expensive employees all the while. That's who we were.
Things changed. A catchy slogan or two and a few commercials wasn’t going to make a difference anymore. The love was gone and CEOs on autopilot were gone.
And so notice what we’ve done lately- we fell in love again. We've adopted the "have a heart" campaign and we are now courting and building a passionate relationship not with pilots and employees per se but rather with the all important HVCs that pay the bills.
Just look what we offer: Skymiles, Sky Club, more Sky Clubs, a better Delta.com, Skyteam options, JVs with AF/KLM, codeshares with Alaska, jets with first class no matter what size, jets with economy comfort, IFEs, life flats, etc. And we offer pilots, PWA 2012.
I know all of that seems obvious but here is my point, Herb fell in love with his SWA employees and brought his customers along. We’re falling in love with our customers and bringing our employees along. And that's why we feel like and probably are just one of many equal parts of a conglomeration of entities.
Equal with imho, Pinnacle, Alaska, AF/KLM, Inflight, Above Wing, DGS, Below Wing, Regional Services (WHICH SUCKS IN GPT), SkyWest, anyone with Jumbo RJs, Shuttle America, anyone in SkyTeam, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Republic, ExpressJet, GoJet.
IMHO, I think that trajectory is set, and it will continue. I don’t think you can serve two masters so I don’t see how you combine Herb’s employee centric model and Delta’s HVC centric model. I think we'll stick to the HVC centric model as an airline and I think we’ll be very very very successful.
But as a pilot group, imho, we’ll be less and less important as time goes on because our trajectory (again imho) is to go along with the reduction in our importance via scope.
And I don’t mean where do we want to go but rather what path has our recent past actions put us on? The PWA, MOUs, LOAs, IOUs and whatever else we’ve done collectively; where is that sending us?
Because no matter how much you proclaim that you’re flying to Stuttgart, if you takeoff out of JFK and head west for 1,000 miles and refuse to change headings, you’re obviously not on the path you think you're on. So where are we headed based on what we've done?
The reason I ask is because I think it's easy to tell where we're going as an airline. I heard a speaker and author today who says he’s done work with Delta, and I think it gives an insightful picture into what we're doing marketing wise. And it’s not complicated, but sometimes you don’t really see it.
To summarize the guy as I [FTB] see it, be like Steve Job’s Apple. Although the author never says that, what he does say is you should aim to share a passionate purpose with your customers, like Apple does. Not a passionate one night stand but a rich marriage that has the type of commitment, intimacy and passion that has you madly committed to each other until death do you part.
Basically, the type of marriage you’d wanted to have had with a young Brooke Shields, back in the day.
[know your audiences age right?]
You can imagine if she was everything you wanted her to be that you'd probably had the kind of love and slavish devotion that would have had you more interested in skyping all day in your hotel room than going out on the town on your 48 hour Prague layover. In the business world you see that type of slavish mad love when it comes to Apple fans lining up outside a store for days to be the first to get the next tiny inferior iphone and completely shun everything else. I think companies look around, see Apple, and say I want that. Or; “I’ll have what she’s having.”
And so companies are trying to figure out ways to build that type of commitment and relationship with their customers and I don't think Delta is any different. Now, if you wanted to apply this authors work to Delta the first thing he asked was for you to figure out- who were you originally? Given that most of the time companies start small and full of passion and grow from there but get lost along the way. So let's look back and see who was Delta originally when it was full of passion?
Well, we were the first to use airplanes to kill rodents in the south. We noticed that other people also had airplanes. And we noticed people liked to fly on those airplanes to go places. We had airplanes. We decided to fly people places. And it worked well for 7 decades while gas was a nickel a gallon and it was naturally easy to love your expensive employees all the while. That's who we were.
Things changed. A catchy slogan or two and a few commercials wasn’t going to make a difference anymore. The love was gone and CEOs on autopilot were gone.
And so notice what we’ve done lately- we fell in love again. We've adopted the "have a heart" campaign and we are now courting and building a passionate relationship not with pilots and employees per se but rather with the all important HVCs that pay the bills.
Just look what we offer: Skymiles, Sky Club, more Sky Clubs, a better Delta.com, Skyteam options, JVs with AF/KLM, codeshares with Alaska, jets with first class no matter what size, jets with economy comfort, IFEs, life flats, etc. And we offer pilots, PWA 2012.
I know all of that seems obvious but here is my point, Herb fell in love with his SWA employees and brought his customers along. We’re falling in love with our customers and bringing our employees along. And that's why we feel like and probably are just one of many equal parts of a conglomeration of entities.
Equal with imho, Pinnacle, Alaska, AF/KLM, Inflight, Above Wing, DGS, Below Wing, Regional Services (WHICH SUCKS IN GPT), SkyWest, anyone with Jumbo RJs, Shuttle America, anyone in SkyTeam, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Republic, ExpressJet, GoJet.
IMHO, I think that trajectory is set, and it will continue. I don’t think you can serve two masters so I don’t see how you combine Herb’s employee centric model and Delta’s HVC centric model. I think we'll stick to the HVC centric model as an airline and I think we’ll be very very very successful.
But as a pilot group, imho, we’ll be less and less important as time goes on because our trajectory (again imho) is to go along with the reduction in our importance via scope.
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05-22-2013, 07:56 PM
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What is your opinion?
Without digging too deep into this, it appears the Supreme Court might be closing the door on a Plaintiff shopping forums to circumvent the proper Federal jurisdiction. IMHO there are a number of issues ripe for the Supreme Court to reassert Federal preemption. The State Courts have been allowing Federal immigration agreements to be used in civil cases and obviously this instant case would subject airlines to State and Local rules.
Without digging too deep into this, it appears the Supreme Court might be closing the door on a Plaintiff shopping forums to circumvent the proper Federal jurisdiction. IMHO there are a number of issues ripe for the Supreme Court to reassert Federal preemption. The State Courts have been allowing Federal immigration agreements to be used in civil cases and obviously this instant case would subject airlines to State and Local rules.
Without digging too deep, I agree.
That, and the conservative justices are always looking for an opportunity to slap around the Ninth Circuit a bit.
That legal community out there in San Francisco is out of control. Somebody needs to periodically remind them of the existence of the US Constitution.
What puzzled me when I read this is how it ended up in a California court. This guy and NWA were both from Minnesota.
That, and the conservative justices are always looking for an opportunity to slap around the Ninth Circuit a bit.
That legal community out there in San Francisco is out of control. Somebody needs to periodically remind them of the existence of the US Constitution.
What puzzled me when I read this is how it ended up in a California court. This guy and NWA were both from Minnesota.
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05-22-2013, 08:08 PM
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Anyone know if they fixed the leaking windows that have troubled the -9 series all its life?
05-22-2013, 08:38 PM
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05-22-2013, 11:19 PM
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I’ve got a question for you guys. What trajectory are we on as a pilot group? I think I know what we’re doing as a company (and I’ll explain below about something I’ve learned recently), but what about as a pilot group?
And I don’t mean where do we want to go but rather what path has our recent past actions put us on? The PWA, MOUs, LOAs, IOUs and whatever else we’ve done collectively; where is that sending us?
Because no matter how much you proclaim that you’re flying to Stuttgart, if you takeoff out of JFK and head west for 1,000 miles and refuse to change headings, you’re obviously not on the path you think you're on. So where are we headed based on what we've done?
The reason I ask is because I think it's easy to tell where we're going as an airline. I heard a speaker and author today who says he’s done work with Delta, and I think it gives an insightful picture into what we're doing marketing wise. And it’s not complicated, but sometimes you don’t really see it.
To summarize the guy as I [FTB] see it, be like Steve Job’s Apple. Although the author never says that, what he does say is you should aim to share a passionate purpose with your customers, like Apple does. Not a passionate one night stand but a rich marriage that has the type of commitment, intimacy and passion that has you madly committed to each other until death do you part.
Basically, the type of marriage you’d wanted to have had with a young Brooke Shields, back in the day.
[know your audiences age right?]
You can imagine if she was everything you wanted her to be that you'd probably had the kind of love and slavish devotion that would have had you more interested in skyping all day in your hotel room than going out on the town on your 48 hour Prague layover. In the business world you see that type of slavish mad love when it comes to Apple fans lining up outside a store for days to be the first to get the next tiny inferior iphone and completely shun everything else. I think companies look around, see Apple, and say I want that. Or; “I’ll have what she’s having.”
And so companies are trying to figure out ways to build that type of commitment and relationship with their customers and I don't think Delta is any different. Now, if you wanted to apply this authors work to Delta the first thing he asked was for you to figure out- who were you originally? Given that most of the time companies start small and full of passion and grow from there but get lost along the way. So let's look back and see who was Delta originally when it was full of passion?
Well, we were the first to use airplanes to kill rodents in the south. We noticed that other people also had airplanes. And we noticed people liked to fly on those airplanes to go places. We had airplanes. We decided to fly people places. And it worked well for 7 decades while gas was a nickel a gallon and it was naturally easy to love your expensive employees all the while. That's who we were.
Things changed. A catchy slogan or two and a few commercials wasn’t going to make a difference anymore. The love was gone and CEOs on autopilot were gone.
And so notice what we’ve done lately- we fell in love again. We've adopted the "have a heart" campaign and we are now courting and building a passionate relationship not with pilots and employees per se but rather with the all important HVCs that pay the bills.
Just look what we offer: Skymiles, Sky Club, more Sky Clubs, a better Delta.com, Skyteam options, JVs with AF/KLM, codeshares with Alaska, jets with first class no matter what size, jets with economy comfort, IFEs, life flats, etc. And we offer pilots, PWA 2012.
I know all of that seems obvious but here is my point, Herb fell in love with his SWA employees and brought his customers along. We’re falling in love with our customers and bringing our employees along. And that's why we feel like and probably are just one of many equal parts of a conglomeration of entities.
Equal with imho, Pinnacle, Alaska, AF/KLM, Inflight, Above Wing, DGS, Below Wing, Regional Services (WHICH SUCKS IN GPT), SkyWest, anyone with Jumbo RJs, Shuttle America, anyone in SkyTeam, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Republic, ExpressJet, GoJet.
IMHO, I think that trajectory is set, and it will continue. I don’t think you can serve two masters so I don’t see how you combine Herb’s employee centric model and Delta’s HVC centric model. I think we'll stick to the HVC centric model as an airline and I think we’ll be very very very successful.
But as a pilot group, imho, we’ll be less and less important as time goes on because our trajectory (again imho) is to go along with the reduction in our importance via scope.
And I don’t mean where do we want to go but rather what path has our recent past actions put us on? The PWA, MOUs, LOAs, IOUs and whatever else we’ve done collectively; where is that sending us?
Because no matter how much you proclaim that you’re flying to Stuttgart, if you takeoff out of JFK and head west for 1,000 miles and refuse to change headings, you’re obviously not on the path you think you're on. So where are we headed based on what we've done?
The reason I ask is because I think it's easy to tell where we're going as an airline. I heard a speaker and author today who says he’s done work with Delta, and I think it gives an insightful picture into what we're doing marketing wise. And it’s not complicated, but sometimes you don’t really see it.
To summarize the guy as I [FTB] see it, be like Steve Job’s Apple. Although the author never says that, what he does say is you should aim to share a passionate purpose with your customers, like Apple does. Not a passionate one night stand but a rich marriage that has the type of commitment, intimacy and passion that has you madly committed to each other until death do you part.
Basically, the type of marriage you’d wanted to have had with a young Brooke Shields, back in the day.
[know your audiences age right?]
You can imagine if she was everything you wanted her to be that you'd probably had the kind of love and slavish devotion that would have had you more interested in skyping all day in your hotel room than going out on the town on your 48 hour Prague layover. In the business world you see that type of slavish mad love when it comes to Apple fans lining up outside a store for days to be the first to get the next tiny inferior iphone and completely shun everything else. I think companies look around, see Apple, and say I want that. Or; “I’ll have what she’s having.”
And so companies are trying to figure out ways to build that type of commitment and relationship with their customers and I don't think Delta is any different. Now, if you wanted to apply this authors work to Delta the first thing he asked was for you to figure out- who were you originally? Given that most of the time companies start small and full of passion and grow from there but get lost along the way. So let's look back and see who was Delta originally when it was full of passion?
Well, we were the first to use airplanes to kill rodents in the south. We noticed that other people also had airplanes. And we noticed people liked to fly on those airplanes to go places. We had airplanes. We decided to fly people places. And it worked well for 7 decades while gas was a nickel a gallon and it was naturally easy to love your expensive employees all the while. That's who we were.
Things changed. A catchy slogan or two and a few commercials wasn’t going to make a difference anymore. The love was gone and CEOs on autopilot were gone.
And so notice what we’ve done lately- we fell in love again. We've adopted the "have a heart" campaign and we are now courting and building a passionate relationship not with pilots and employees per se but rather with the all important HVCs that pay the bills.
Just look what we offer: Skymiles, Sky Club, more Sky Clubs, a better Delta.com, Skyteam options, JVs with AF/KLM, codeshares with Alaska, jets with first class no matter what size, jets with economy comfort, IFEs, life flats, etc. And we offer pilots, PWA 2012.
I know all of that seems obvious but here is my point, Herb fell in love with his SWA employees and brought his customers along. We’re falling in love with our customers and bringing our employees along. And that's why we feel like and probably are just one of many equal parts of a conglomeration of entities.
Equal with imho, Pinnacle, Alaska, AF/KLM, Inflight, Above Wing, DGS, Below Wing, Regional Services (WHICH SUCKS IN GPT), SkyWest, anyone with Jumbo RJs, Shuttle America, anyone in SkyTeam, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Republic, ExpressJet, GoJet.
IMHO, I think that trajectory is set, and it will continue. I don’t think you can serve two masters so I don’t see how you combine Herb’s employee centric model and Delta’s HVC centric model. I think we'll stick to the HVC centric model as an airline and I think we’ll be very very very successful.
But as a pilot group, imho, we’ll be less and less important as time goes on because our trajectory (again imho) is to go along with the reduction in our importance via scope.
05-23-2013, 02:04 AM
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05-23-2013, 02:36 AM
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I’ve got a question for you guys. What trajectory are we on as a pilot group? I think I know what we’re doing as a company (and I’ll explain below about something I’ve learned recently), but what about as a pilot group?
And I don’t mean where do we want to go but rather what path has our recent past actions put us on? The PWA, MOUs, LOAs, IOUs and whatever else we’ve done collectively; where is that sending us?
Because no matter how much you proclaim that you’re flying to Stuttgart, if you takeoff out of JFK and head west for 1,000 miles and refuse to change headings, you’re obviously not on the path you think you're on. So where are we headed based on what we've done?
The reason I ask is because I think it's easy to tell where we're going as an airline. I heard a speaker and author today who says he’s done work with Delta, and I think it gives an insightful picture into what we're doing marketing wise. And it’s not complicated, but sometimes you don’t really see it.
To summarize the guy as I [FTB] see it, be like Steve Job’s Apple. Although the author never says that, what he does say is you should aim to share a passionate purpose with your customers, like Apple does. Not a passionate one night stand but a rich marriage that has the type of commitment, intimacy and passion that has you madly committed to each other until death do you part.
Basically, the type of marriage you’d wanted to have had with a young Brooke Shields, back in the day.
[know your audiences age right?]
You can imagine if she was everything you wanted her to be that you'd probably had the kind of love and slavish devotion that would have had you more interested in skyping all day in your hotel room than going out on the town on your 48 hour Prague layover. In the business world you see that type of slavish mad love when it comes to Apple fans lining up outside a store for days to be the first to get the next tiny inferior iphone and completely shun everything else. I think companies look around, see Apple, and say I want that. Or; “I’ll have what she’s having.”
And so companies are trying to figure out ways to build that type of commitment and relationship with their customers and I don't think Delta is any different. Now, if you wanted to apply this authors work to Delta the first thing he asked was for you to figure out- who were you originally? Given that most of the time companies start small and full of passion and grow from there but get lost along the way. So let's look back and see who was Delta originally when it was full of passion?
Well, we were the first to use airplanes to kill rodents in the south. We noticed that other people also had airplanes. And we noticed people liked to fly on those airplanes to go places. We had airplanes. We decided to fly people places. And it worked well for 7 decades while gas was a nickel a gallon and it was naturally easy to love your expensive employees all the while. That's who we were.
Things changed. A catchy slogan or two and a few commercials wasn’t going to make a difference anymore. The love was gone and CEOs on autopilot were gone.
And so notice what we’ve done lately- we fell in love again. We've adopted the "have a heart" campaign and we are now courting and building a passionate relationship not with pilots and employees per se but rather with the all important HVCs that pay the bills.
Just look what we offer: Skymiles, Sky Club, more Sky Clubs, a better Delta.com, Skyteam options, JVs with AF/KLM, codeshares with Alaska, jets with first class no matter what size, jets with economy comfort, IFEs, life flats, etc. And we offer pilots, PWA 2012.
I know all of that seems obvious but here is my point, Herb fell in love with his SWA employees and brought his customers along. We’re falling in love with our customers and bringing our employees along. And that's why we feel like and probably are just one of many equal parts of a conglomeration of entities.
Equal with imho, Pinnacle, Alaska, AF/KLM, Inflight, Above Wing, DGS, Below Wing, Regional Services (WHICH SUCKS IN GPT), SkyWest, anyone with Jumbo RJs, Shuttle America, anyone in SkyTeam, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Republic, ExpressJet, GoJet.
IMHO, I think that trajectory is set, and it will continue. I don’t think you can serve two masters so I don’t see how you combine Herb’s employee centric model and Delta’s HVC centric model. I think we'll stick to the HVC centric model as an airline and I think we’ll be very very very successful.
But as a pilot group, imho, we’ll be less and less important as time goes on because our trajectory (again imho) is to go along with the reduction in our importance via scope.
And I don’t mean where do we want to go but rather what path has our recent past actions put us on? The PWA, MOUs, LOAs, IOUs and whatever else we’ve done collectively; where is that sending us?
Because no matter how much you proclaim that you’re flying to Stuttgart, if you takeoff out of JFK and head west for 1,000 miles and refuse to change headings, you’re obviously not on the path you think you're on. So where are we headed based on what we've done?
The reason I ask is because I think it's easy to tell where we're going as an airline. I heard a speaker and author today who says he’s done work with Delta, and I think it gives an insightful picture into what we're doing marketing wise. And it’s not complicated, but sometimes you don’t really see it.
To summarize the guy as I [FTB] see it, be like Steve Job’s Apple. Although the author never says that, what he does say is you should aim to share a passionate purpose with your customers, like Apple does. Not a passionate one night stand but a rich marriage that has the type of commitment, intimacy and passion that has you madly committed to each other until death do you part.
Basically, the type of marriage you’d wanted to have had with a young Brooke Shields, back in the day.
[know your audiences age right?]
You can imagine if she was everything you wanted her to be that you'd probably had the kind of love and slavish devotion that would have had you more interested in skyping all day in your hotel room than going out on the town on your 48 hour Prague layover. In the business world you see that type of slavish mad love when it comes to Apple fans lining up outside a store for days to be the first to get the next tiny inferior iphone and completely shun everything else. I think companies look around, see Apple, and say I want that. Or; “I’ll have what she’s having.”
And so companies are trying to figure out ways to build that type of commitment and relationship with their customers and I don't think Delta is any different. Now, if you wanted to apply this authors work to Delta the first thing he asked was for you to figure out- who were you originally? Given that most of the time companies start small and full of passion and grow from there but get lost along the way. So let's look back and see who was Delta originally when it was full of passion?
Well, we were the first to use airplanes to kill rodents in the south. We noticed that other people also had airplanes. And we noticed people liked to fly on those airplanes to go places. We had airplanes. We decided to fly people places. And it worked well for 7 decades while gas was a nickel a gallon and it was naturally easy to love your expensive employees all the while. That's who we were.
Things changed. A catchy slogan or two and a few commercials wasn’t going to make a difference anymore. The love was gone and CEOs on autopilot were gone.
And so notice what we’ve done lately- we fell in love again. We've adopted the "have a heart" campaign and we are now courting and building a passionate relationship not with pilots and employees per se but rather with the all important HVCs that pay the bills.
Just look what we offer: Skymiles, Sky Club, more Sky Clubs, a better Delta.com, Skyteam options, JVs with AF/KLM, codeshares with Alaska, jets with first class no matter what size, jets with economy comfort, IFEs, life flats, etc. And we offer pilots, PWA 2012.
I know all of that seems obvious but here is my point, Herb fell in love with his SWA employees and brought his customers along. We’re falling in love with our customers and bringing our employees along. And that's why we feel like and probably are just one of many equal parts of a conglomeration of entities.
Equal with imho, Pinnacle, Alaska, AF/KLM, Inflight, Above Wing, DGS, Below Wing, Regional Services (WHICH SUCKS IN GPT), SkyWest, anyone with Jumbo RJs, Shuttle America, anyone in SkyTeam, Virgin Atlantic, GOL, Republic, ExpressJet, GoJet.
IMHO, I think that trajectory is set, and it will continue. I don’t think you can serve two masters so I don’t see how you combine Herb’s employee centric model and Delta’s HVC centric model. I think we'll stick to the HVC centric model as an airline and I think we’ll be very very very successful.
But as a pilot group, imho, we’ll be less and less important as time goes on because our trajectory (again imho) is to go along with the reduction in our importance via scope.
On another note, your MEC is in a two day strategic planning meeting to adjust that course next week.
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