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I'm not trying to get in a tit for tat - to the contrary I was pointing out that there are pluses and minuses to our current system. Unfortunately there will always be a downside and someone will always feel they are being slighted.
I will say that the current system has had the unexpected result of more junior pilots being able to hold lines as very senior pilots are bidding RSV by choice. That is something that I would have valued greatly when I was a junior commuter always stuck on RSV - now not as much, but it does open up options on down the list. It hasn't been unusual to see REG pilots on the last page of the awards nor RSV pilots on the first page... Just offering up some food for thought. It's simply a different way of doing things. If enough of us hate it then we will make sure it goes back the other way at our next opportunity.
To be clear I'm not defending all aspects of our reserve system. There are many things that need to be fixed. I just find it disingenuous to rail on the negatives while ignoring the upside. Only by understanding the full picture will be able to make sound decisions at our next opportunity, whenever that may be.
I will say that the current system has had the unexpected result of more junior pilots being able to hold lines as very senior pilots are bidding RSV by choice. That is something that I would have valued greatly when I was a junior commuter always stuck on RSV - now not as much, but it does open up options on down the list. It hasn't been unusual to see REG pilots on the last page of the awards nor RSV pilots on the first page... Just offering up some food for thought. It's simply a different way of doing things. If enough of us hate it then we will make sure it goes back the other way at our next opportunity.
To be clear I'm not defending all aspects of our reserve system. There are many things that need to be fixed. I just find it disingenuous to rail on the negatives while ignoring the upside. Only by understanding the full picture will be able to make sound decisions at our next opportunity, whenever that may be.
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Don't you recall the survey asking what was more important on your list of priorities? When I saw the 8 hour limit mentioned in the survey it came across as, "What are you willing to give up to keep this?" Cynical? Yes. After being told 5 days of flying would get you into bucket 2 and other such stories from my union you can easily understand why.
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I sure hope all our Delta brothers and sisters as well as any extended family members are ok in the OKC area. A tornado estimated at 2 miles wide just caused severe damage just south of OKC. Damage is wide spread includes at least 1 school just flattened. Prayers to all! Now back to studying the 88/90. BTW how the hell does one keep the 90 electrical system and 88 electrical system straight. Any cliff notes?
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I sure hope all our Delta brothers and sisters as well as any extended family members are ok in the OKC area. A tornado estimated at 2 miles wide just caused severe damage just south of OKC. Damage is wide spread includes at least 1 school just flattened. Prayers to all! Now back to studying the 88/90. BTW how the hell does one keep the 90 electrical system and 88 electrical system straight. Any cliff notes?
For a while the answer to all MD90 questions were "IOE."
If these Alaska rumors are true, you can bet they'll sure as hell argue they should be integrated senior to the Douglas fleet. They'll not be pleased to see that thing coming back. They have added 40 percent to their list since 2009.
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Haven't ventured to the ESV yet. Just trying to get a working knowledge of these systems so I don't make a bigger fool of myself when discussing the airplane with anyone who can throw the BS flag at me.
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Does the ESV now include the 90?
For a while the answer to all MD90 questions were "IOE."
If these Alaska rumors are true, you can bet they'll sure as hell argue they should be integrated senior to the Douglas fleet. They'll not be pleased to see that thing coming back. They have added 40 percent to their list since 2009.
For a while the answer to all MD90 questions were "IOE."
If these Alaska rumors are true, you can bet they'll sure as hell argue they should be integrated senior to the Douglas fleet. They'll not be pleased to see that thing coming back. They have added 40 percent to their list since 2009.
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Just offering up a different perspective: Don't assume everyone would want what you want. As Purple Drank put it, I preferred what I had before. In my case, I'm a commuter and I had weekends off on reserve. With this new contract I get a line (if I have to fly weekends I might as well have a line), but I preferred having my weekends off. That option went bye-bye a while back. My point is, I see that brought up a lot as if it's a positive when in my opinion it's a negative. For me, commuting to reserve isn't as bad as rarely getting a weekend off.
I can remember back in C2K reading the DALPA message boards. One guy was complaining loudly about how much reserve sucked, etc. Someone else chimed in, "uh, right now reserve is a pretty good gig and actually goes senior in some categories."
His response? "Well, something is wrong with a system where any pilot would voluntarily choose reserve."
UNbelievable.
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This may be the first post in human history where a guy is complaining about getting a line! Are you saying that is bad?
I can remember back in C2K reading the DALPA message boards. One guy was complaining loudly about how much reserve sucked, etc. Someone else chimed in, "uh, right now reserve is a pretty good gig and actually goes senior in some categories."
His response? "Well, something is wrong with a system where any pilot would voluntarily choose reserve."
UNbelievable.
I can remember back in C2K reading the DALPA message boards. One guy was complaining loudly about how much reserve sucked, etc. Someone else chimed in, "uh, right now reserve is a pretty good gig and actually goes senior in some categories."
His response? "Well, something is wrong with a system where any pilot would voluntarily choose reserve."
UNbelievable.
I think we're pretty close to that right now, but obviously need to fix some things. A big one for me is SC's up-ending the entire Raw Bucket apple cart. We need SC's to somehow be tied to the Bucket and Days of Availability Grouping to keep one guy from flying into the next bucket and then getting put on SC only to go out again on a trip. The Bucket System doesn't protect guys in that situation.
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Where are you getting your numbers? Are you confusing AS with HA? I'm a mid '06 hire and have just over 250 below me out of 1472, putting me around the 85th percentile. When you wrote, "added 40%" were you including recalls? Even if you were, AS has added about 12% to the list since '09. If you're including only new hires, then we've added 6%.
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