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Old 05-20-2013, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by redship
Rumor from a recent in command class:

Direct from RA: Delta will own Alaska sooner rather then later.
Anyone from the Command Class that can confirm? RA doesn't say stuff like that unless he means it. How long ago was this supposed class?

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Old 05-20-2013, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
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Many of us don't want the extra money or the extra pay for flying to ALV +15. We're happy to make a little less money and be around for our kids' ball games in the summer.
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I agree. I love my family, but if the company is ok with understaffed operation (it seems that's the goal) and me being gone all the time I want a 70% [not self funded] pay increase, no typo, to be able to retire at 50.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by redship
Rumor from a recent in command class:

Direct from RA: Delta will own Alaska sooner rather then later.
If true at all (and the stock manipulations suggest it might be) then what Lee Moak authorized in Alaska's section 1 is of critical importance to Delta pilots.

What kind of merger protections did they get? Skywest has MRJ's on order which violate our current scope.

IMHO Alaska is a good fit, but not a competitive solution. Flat earth no growth zero sum thinking if we do it.

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
I agree. United will be all over that. We will follow just like the CAL's
"757 to Europe (with 75% of potable water)", unheard of before 2004-05.
What was with the potable water?
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by redship
Rumor from a recent in command class:

Direct from RA: Delta will own Alaska sooner rather then later.
No please God no.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
What was with the potable water?
Want the answer by weight or volume?
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by redship
With Part 117 allowing us to fly up to 9 hours it wouldn't surprise me. 737 pay and only 2 pilots! This sounds like a no brainer. Only time will tell...
This isn't the panacea for the airlines that it appears to be. "Legal to start, legal to finish" goes away with 117.

According to the Feds, if you taxi out and get an hour in the deice pad, and it puts you over, back to the gate you go.

Divert someplace, and if it puts you over, you spend the night.

Expect to see considerable buffers.

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Old 05-20-2013, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
This isn't the panacea for the airlines that it appears to be. "Legal to start, legal to finish" goes away with 117.

According to the Feds, if you taxi out and get an hour in the deice pad, and it puts you over, back to the gate you go.

Divert someplace, and if it puts you over, you spend the night.

Expect to see considerable buffers.
I agree - pt 117 is more about flying less, than more. Yes, it does allow 9 hours of flying, but there are many more protections built in (like you say, no more legal to start, legal to finish - if you can't be landing within 9 hours of blocking out, can't takeoff). I can't see much benefit to the company for bring up the scheduling part contract for renegotiation - I don't think they'll get a lot of overall benefit.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
If true at all (and the stock manipulations suggest it might be) then what Lee Moak authorized in Alaska's section 1 is of critical importance to Delta pilots.

What kind of merger protections did they get? Skywest has MRJ's on order which violate our current scope.

IMHO Alaska is a good fit, but not a competitive solution. Flat earth no growth zero sum thinking if we do it.
Has SKYW said or signed anything regarding operating those for AS? If they can't find a scope busting sugar daddy for those, and they actually take delivery, they are going to choke on them harder than IndyAir, not even including the viscous retaliation from DL/UA. DL has them over a barrel in 2015 too, even without that "incentive".

AS is a good route map fit, but most of that is self induced. For either pilot groups there would be no net "growth" and the network would grow mostly on "connection" dots on the map anyway although there are some exceptions.

Still though, as long as we don't inherit their scope albatross, it would be better long term than having a large 737 DCI operator. Integrate at narrow body percentiles and fence existing base/equip for a few years if necessary and get all the flying under one list.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:30 AM
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Am I doing this right? I'm scheduled for CQ training next month and want to square away my hotel arrangements. So I follow the VRU phone menu and get to the training / hotel for training option. I left a message a few hours ago. Tried calling them again and got the answering machine again. Is there another route I should be taking? I notice next month's schedule has a hotel name down (no location) and some digits next to it 404 followed by a combination of dashes and numbers that are a couple short of a valid phone number.
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