ImTumbleweed

Bump.

I loved how when the TA was being sold by DALPA they said this concession was only for the international categories.

Yet DALPA served, on a silver platter, the ability for domestic reserves to be flown to ALV+15. (Delta only wanted International relief?).

So now, domestic reserves can be flown to ALV+15.

Why? Because DALPA gave it to the company. And now...the company is doing just that. They will continue to do so.

The DALPA guys will chime in and say "Statistically, it's a small percentage of people who....blah, blah, blah".

Well DALPA....that "small percentage" of people pay you money, each month, to improve THEIR quality of life and pay. And you threw them under the bus, for a Cost of Living pay raise.

I'd like to know where in the Contract Survey did the Reserve folks say "Yes...Please make me able to fly to ALV+15". Did we ask for that in the Contract Survey?

Heck...I'd just be happy to see the Contract Survey.

We'll never see the contract survey. sadly.

I'd like just one DALPA guy to post here and say "yeah guys, we got taken on that last deal....I promise, it won't happen again".

It won't happen. But I can dream...

sailingfun

You ignore all the good changes on reserve. You are now full at the reserve guarantee, known absences now count toward being full (huge in a vacation or training month) and a 8 percent average raise for the year on top of the 12.8 percent a the amendable date.
Your description of how the change came about is also wildly inaccurate.

Carl Spackler

Yes, these good changes were "funded" by the across the board ALV+15 that Tumbleweed states. Thanks for reminding us of yet another example of this contract's cost neutrality.

Funded by reductions in profit sharing makes it just another COLA increase.

Wow...a 12.8% pay bump at the amendable date? Awesome! I take it all back. You DALPA apologists were right...I guess it's not a COLA contract after all.

After what you've just posted above, you're nobody to describe ANYTHING as wildly inaccurate.

This is an example of why DALPA and its loyal apologists have lost so much trust and credibility. You'd do so much to help yourself if you'd just come clean as Tumbleweed suggests. Dream on I guess

Carl

forgot to bid

So when you hit reserve guarantee, you're done? There is no such thing as ALV+15?

LivingTheDream

As MD88 said, you can type in correct date at the hang & hit enter.

However, if you update each program separately, (easybid, easy swap, WW), using f5, it should correct the bid months permanently... it did for me. For some reason you must update each separately... if you check all the update boxes for an f5 update of WW, doesn't seem to work.

Bucking Bar

I am with you here. Overall, the changes resulted in much improved pay for reserve pilots.

With the bucket system and weekend flying there might be some junior Douglas pilots getting really abused compared to everyone else. If anyone has flown an ALV+15 month against their will, I've not seen their example. The trade off for the junior pilots that want to escape the MD are doing back to back red eyes to one hour + van rides up dirt roads in a diesel powered version of a 1972 volkswagen vanagon populated by four exhausted flight attendants, your Captain, the van driver and his significant other. At least the local version of the Rush Limbaugh show is blaring to the sound of something that sounds like an Orangutan is singing to the beat of combat boots in a clothes dryer. WOMPITY WOMP eeeeeeeelalalala WOMPITY CRASH! Pregunte deLLTAH KAPITAN tomorrow twenty three fifEETEE van. Then they motion for you to light their cigarette. When in God's green earth have First Officers carried cigarette lighters? Anyway, how do they smoke at 10,000 feet? Jeesh, I'm bidding back to Douglas test flight work.

New York ER might be the best junior flying deal in the system, but, New York.

Heard a rumor we are going to ETOPS a couple of 737's and send them DBN / SNN, close in Europe. That thing sure isn't very comfortable for that kind of flying. At least talk show hosts are less inteligible in Gaelic and they dive on the wrong side of the road.

sailingfun

In the prior contract you were full at the ALV. You are now full at the guarnetee,

sailingfun

Carl, it's a shame you never even read the contract you complain so much about. The amendable date of the contract was 1 Jan 2013. The raise on that date totaled 12.8 percent on the pay tables. 4 percent of that was put into effect early as some kind of signing bonus. Reserve pay should now end up on average around 75.5 hours. That is about another 8 percent.
These cost neutral changes as you call them are why your total compensation is going to be up over 120,000 a year since the merger and your hourly rate up over 120 per hour including the DC next JAN.

Scoop

Bar,

The way the bucket system is set up as soon as said junior Douglas Pilot hits bucket two, he goes to the back of the list. Any variation greater than being one bucket ahead of other Pilots is random and occurs despite the bucket system.

Reserve usage varies greatly by category - the smaller categories are much more random then the large categories (law of averages at work) but there are a lot of other factors besides the bucket system that impact utilization.


Scoop

firstmob

If as rumored we are going to start over flying NRT, where are we getting the aircraft to operate the flights?