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Old 05-16-2013, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
No I'm not offended by that, it's not personally offensive to me. I can tell by the reaction on here that I've hit a nerve with some of you. I've admitted that the HR route is not the way to go and Pro Stan's I the correct way to handle this. Maybe some of you need to ask yourselves WHY this is even an issue?
Not an issue with me. Who brought this up? On two threads?
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:10 AM
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But, I don't believe in the end of the fiat banking system. The military industrial complex will never let that happen. Time will tell.
Aren't bitcoins interesting? If governments can create fiat currencies, then why can't anyone if the widgets are accepted for trade?

The bitcoin thing isn't so much of a joke once you have the sovereign wealth funds of restricted nations like Iran playing in them and firms like Goldman Sachs providing market liquidity.

IMHO, one of the largest threats to fiat currencies are competing fiat currencies.

My guess is that we have yet to see the bigger downturn in Gold. Like most markets the real selling comes with the second leg down when those folks praying for a recovery (often with leveraged positions) panic when the recovery does not happen as planned. There are a lot of reasons Gold should be $1,250 to $1,300 an ounce; mostly because that's about what it costs to produce in today's market and it is, after all, a commodity.

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Old 05-16-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sobchak
Not an issue with me. Who brought this up? On two threads?
I think Erdude (The ER that flies out of NYC, not the diploma store in Daytona Beach) got aggravated at some stupid things his Captain(s) said and figured the fix was to take the issue to HR. Most pilots think HR most resembles a lobotomized Pit Bull on whatever Charlie Sheen takes to manage his tiger blood condition.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
Good grief, I apologize for my "juvenile" comments....I was just trying to be funny....just as I was when I posted the pic of the hot Santa dude. If you don't want to be offended by the guy talk in our virtual "bar" then don't come here for your beer. Sheesh. I'm probably the only pole smoker on here and I post 1 picture a year, I don't get offended by underboob the other 364 days a year. This is all in fun and a great place to swap lies and rumors. Lighten up just a bit, life is more fun that way

W T F is a pole smoker?
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
W T F is a pole smoker?
ask a male flight attendant if you can smoke his pole. That should provide your answer.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
W T F is a pole smoker?
It's what you hope your wife/GF is.....
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Erdude,

Your own advice.

A lot of what's called homophobia isn't. Perhaps bigotry is a better way to describe some peoples' reactions to having a somewhat organized group aggressively force their sexual opinions on them. Venting is mostly a reaction to observations like the nude male bag tags I've seen on a NY Based A line's luggage and our corporation's own sponsorship of a program which sends adults to middle schools to talk to children about sexuality. Where I come from both are highly inappropriate, but are accepted.

Two wrongs don't make a right. In fact, two wrongs on the flight deck is likely a violation, or a safety event. I prefer the Braves to the Yankees and some years I am passionate about that distinction, but, I could care less as long as that other pilot speaks up at the right time to keep us both out of trouble.

IMHO, hypersensitivity to anything is an invitation to distraction. I keep my scope issues here on a web board. I invite you to do the same with whatever issues you might have a particular concern about. This is a better place to fix the World's problems than a flight deck, or heaven forbid with HR.

I strongly believe it is wrong to try to harm a fellow pilot because your opinions are different from theirs ... and at the end of the day, what you describe is a matter of opinion; two extreme views on what is unacceptable behavior.
First of all, thank you erdude for recognizing that pro-stan is the way to go if you want to go to someone about the issue.

Second, very well put, Bar.

Third- If you do have an issue, and do go to HR, you will only be hurting your cause, and not helping it. Nothing will create a reputation faster than writing someone up (not the good kind of reputation and adding negative awareness for your cause) . While likely not very comfortable from your perspective, the thing that would get the most positive response would be to confront the CA's that stated these things. That shows backbone and would not further any stereotypes they may have. Going to HR would have been direct reinforcement of being fickle and emotional. Considering that these captains have made these statements, you obviously don't fit in the "flaming" category, which many find quite annoying. Not because of the sexual connotation (at least not me, I don't care what you're trying to bang), but because of the overemotional behaviors involved. I may make a comment about a stew here and there, but that is due to annoying overemotional behavior and not limited to male or female.

We very likely have a mutual friend or two, as the world of gay pilots is very small. You're obviously a cool dude as you put up with our underboob and such on here. I'm sure it will get better with time, but also understand the career field you've signed up for. It's a bunch of Type A OCD people. There are going to be a few gems here and there everywhere who are obnoxious- that's why the tool of the day thread was started.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
W T F is a pole smoker?
My lawn mower has a vertical crank shaft which gets pumped by pistons very hard and regularly as a result of hot, expansive, gasses. If not properly lubricated, the thrust bearing could get really hot, as it grinds away against the shaft causing spalling. The first visible objective indication of impending failure would be smoke.

Therefore anyone who closely mows their wife's lawn without proper servicing of their tools before use might end up smoking a pole.

At least that's what I think he was talking about.

Home Depot, F150 ... make that a 350 Diesel with a tow package ... ahem.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:41 AM
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Can somebody summarize this recent exchange in a few bullet points? I don't have the desire to read the whole thing... yup... I'm lazy today.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
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