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If someone doesn't want to fly a E190, 175, 170, 195, CR9, CR7, CR1000, C-Series, etc, don't bid it. So much better than "I don't want those [expletive] little airplanes here" so outsource them.
I mean if we're going to outsource airplanes guys think are beneath them to fly then what the heck is this still doing here?
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Is it just me or do all the "new" aircraft rumors die faster than they are hatched?
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The problem is DALPA negotiators failed to hold the line on scope. That's bad enough, but the pilot group ratified their negotiating failure with a resounding 68% "yes" vote. So as long as Delta pilots keep "caving" on scope, the company will keep asking for more.
Honestly, can you blame them?
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I said 90 to 100 seat platform. I was mistaken, as a type we have outsourced a 120 seat platform that can go 4,200 NM.
Imapilot; if I asked you what you fly, would you respond, "Bar, I fly a 160 seat jet" ? Last I checked, there is no reference to a seat limit on your Type Certificate. Pilots, the FAA and management see this for what it is.
ALPA is now on record of approving other pilot groups sitting down with Delta management to make proposals and negotiate contracts. The Delta MEC says that no other pilot group could negotiate for our flying, but, ALPA did not bother telling our MEC what was being negotiated. We did not know what happened until we received the cram down. Not a single Rep objected. Not a one.
So do you have any great confidence that ALPA isn't going to do whatever the heck it wants? It is authorized to do so by law. It is our obligation to manage our union and we are failing to do so.
Whether a 120 seat platform is operated to it's capacity is a matter of negotiations ... negotiations we might not even be a part of. Our contract does have an amendable date after all.
Imapilot; if I asked you what you fly, would you respond, "Bar, I fly a 160 seat jet" ? Last I checked, there is no reference to a seat limit on your Type Certificate. Pilots, the FAA and management see this for what it is.
ALPA is now on record of approving other pilot groups sitting down with Delta management to make proposals and negotiate contracts. The Delta MEC says that no other pilot group could negotiate for our flying, but, ALPA did not bother telling our MEC what was being negotiated. We did not know what happened until we received the cram down. Not a single Rep objected. Not a one.
So do you have any great confidence that ALPA isn't going to do whatever the heck it wants? It is authorized to do so by law. It is our obligation to manage our union and we are failing to do so.
Whether a 120 seat platform is operated to it's capacity is a matter of negotiations ... negotiations we might not even be a part of. Our contract does have an amendable date after all.
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This is some "Terminator" Skynet stuff!! Kind of nerdy but if your bored with studying for up coming CQ like me...
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Prior to our current contract a fair number of folks were espousing the "Not one more pound, not one more seat, not one more jet" mantra....
The problem is DALPA negotiators failed to hold the line on scope. That's bad enough, but the pilot group ratified their negotiating failure with a resounding 68% "yes" vote. So as long as Delta pilots keep "caving" on scope, the company will keep asking for more.
Honestly, can you blame them?
The problem is DALPA negotiators failed to hold the line on scope. That's bad enough, but the pilot group ratified their negotiating failure with a resounding 68% "yes" vote. So as long as Delta pilots keep "caving" on scope, the company will keep asking for more.
Honestly, can you blame them?
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My point being, IMO, we don't outsource 90-100 seat delta flying. 76 and smaller yes.
You want to define it by the seats they could hold? Fine, the Dc9-10 was an 90 seater, when that left we had the -30.....a 115 seater then. From the Embraer site, E175 up to 88 seats, the CRJ900 also up to 88 seats. By either way of looking at it, 76 or max seat capacity 88. We do not outsource 90-100 seat flying. Also 76/78(-10) or 88max/90MAX(-10), in the last forty years we have never flown ac smaller than the regionals now fly.
Also, I want to stop outsourcing regardless of how long also but lets call it accurately. I thought that would go without saying, considering that I stated in my opening line " I don't like big rj's any more than the next guy but they have been held to 76 seats for a long time."
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ALPA vigorously denies C2012 was linked to Pinnacle and /or more outsourcing, but it sure was convenient that our cops did not observe the break in. Further, as soon as objective evidence was brought forward they trotted "the Judge" out to stop Reps' queries into blatant violations of our C&BL and Admin Manual.
The irony was that our current Admin would be called to pay for the sins of the previous Admin, likely restoring the previous Admin to power .... a well engineered political catch 22 if I've ever seen one.
But it is truly sad to see how far we will go to facilitate outsourcing. At the top we must really believe in this stuff.
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