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05-07-2013, 09:26 AM
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RAH is still getting C Series right?
05-07-2013, 09:28 AM
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05-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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05-07-2013, 10:02 AM
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Just to save him some keystrokes that could be better allocated toward raging against all things Douglas, he was talking about the CRJ900/EMB175 fleets. While only 76 are installed, they are 90ish seat aircraft. Each one is a small plug away from a full on 100 seat same type aircraft too.
Even ALPA's ingrained speed/weight/productivity/wing loading/sex appeal formula uses max certifiable, not just chosen seats installed. Yet when it comes to outsourcing, we "limit" management to outsource only the configuration they intended to in the first place.
DCI outsourcing is at the 90-100 seat range already. Big time.
Even ALPA's ingrained speed/weight/productivity/wing loading/sex appeal formula uses max certifiable, not just chosen seats installed. Yet when it comes to outsourcing, we "limit" management to outsource only the configuration they intended to in the first place.
DCI outsourcing is at the 90-100 seat range already. Big time.
When I was at Mesaba we flew Avro rj85's for NWA.
BAe 146-200 and Avro RJ85
The 146-200 features a 2.41 m (7 ft 11 in) fuselage extension and reduced cost per seat mile. The -200 first flew in August 1982 and entered service six months later. The RJ85, the first RJ development of the BAe 146 family, features an improved cabin and the more efficient LF 507 engines. Deliveries of the RJ85 began in April 1993. The RJ85 seats up to 112 passengers.
That was 16 years ago. Sorry I thought we were talking about something new that wasn't from almost two decades ago. They flew with 76 seats back then.....just like the smaller cabin longer range equivalents do now.
I also think the MTOW was about 10,000 lbs heavier than the ones we have now, although we do have more of them, which isn't good in itself.
I am glad that we are getting 88, new to us, 107 seat(ish) aircraft to fly.
The Boeing 717 is a twin-engine, single-aisle jet airliner, developed for the 100-seat market. The airliner was designed and marketed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD-95, a third-generation derivative of the DC-9. Capable of seating of up to 117 passengers, the 717 has design range of 2,060 nautical miles (3,820 km). The aircraft is powered by two Rolls-Royce BR715 turbofan engines.
I guess we should call those 117 seat planes though.
For my history of going back 40 years and referencing NWA, the smallest they flew, I believe since I was born, was the DC-9-10, seated to 78 seats? but we should call that....a 90 seat plane?
Capacity
Flightcrew of two. 10 - Seating for 80 in a single class at five abreast and 86cm (34in) pitch. Max seating for 90.
05-07-2013, 10:46 AM
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05-07-2013, 11:31 AM
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Alaska Air links Portland, Ore. to Delta, AA hubs
By Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY
May 2, 2013
Alaska Airlines will add two new nonstop routes from its hub in Portland, Ore.
Flights to Atlanta will begin Aug. 26 while flights to Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) will start Sept. 16. Alaska Air will fly one daily round-trip flight on each route.
"With today's announcement, we will have committed to eight new routes from Portland within the last 12 months as we continue expansion of this hub," Andrew Harrison, Alaska Air's VP of planning and revenue management, says in a statement.
The routes also connects Alaska Air's Portland hub with the top hubs of its two biggest U.S. partners, Delta and American. Delta operates its biggest hub in Atlanta while American's is at DFW. Alaska has codesharing and reciprocal frequent-flier pacts with both carriers.
"With these new flights to Atlanta and Dallas/Fort Worth, our Portland-area customers will not only enjoy two new nonstop destinations, but seamless connecting opportunities throughout North America via our partners Delta Air Lines and American Airlines at their respective hubs in Atlanta and Dallas/Fort Worth," Harrison adds in the press release.
Alaska Airlines biggest hub is in Seattle, from where it already flies nonstop to both Atlanta and DFW.
However, Alaska Air notes that its Portland-Atlanta flight will replace one of its current two daily round-trip Seattle-Atlanta flights. When the Portland-Atlanta route begins Aug. 26, Alaska Air will reduce its Seattle-Atlanta route to once daily.
The new flights also continue Alaska Air's growth at Portland during the past year. The carrier has added new routes to Bozeman, Mont., Santa Barbara, Calif., Pasco, Wash., Kauai, Hawaii, and Washington, D.C.'s Reagan National Airport. Alaska plans to add nonstop flights between Portland and Fairbanks, Alaska, on June 9.
Alaska Air is offering double frequent-flier miles on Portland-Atlanta flights for travel between Aug. 26 and Oct. 31, and on Portland-Dallas flights from Sept. 16 through Oct. 31, 2013. To qualify, customers must register at Find Airline Tickets, Low Airfares & Discount Flights - Alaska Airlines before their first qualifying flight.
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By Ben Mutzabaugh, USA TODAY
May 2, 2013
Alaska Airlines will add two new nonstop routes from its hub in Portland, Ore.
Flights to Atlanta will begin Aug. 26 while flights to Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) will start Sept. 16. Alaska Air will fly one daily round-trip flight on each route.
"With today's announcement, we will have committed to eight new routes from Portland within the last 12 months as we continue expansion of this hub," Andrew Harrison, Alaska Air's VP of planning and revenue management, says in a statement.
The routes also connects Alaska Air's Portland hub with the top hubs of its two biggest U.S. partners, Delta and American. Delta operates its biggest hub in Atlanta while American's is at DFW. Alaska has codesharing and reciprocal frequent-flier pacts with both carriers.
"With these new flights to Atlanta and Dallas/Fort Worth, our Portland-area customers will not only enjoy two new nonstop destinations, but seamless connecting opportunities throughout North America via our partners Delta Air Lines and American Airlines at their respective hubs in Atlanta and Dallas/Fort Worth," Harrison adds in the press release.
Alaska Airlines biggest hub is in Seattle, from where it already flies nonstop to both Atlanta and DFW.
However, Alaska Air notes that its Portland-Atlanta flight will replace one of its current two daily round-trip Seattle-Atlanta flights. When the Portland-Atlanta route begins Aug. 26, Alaska Air will reduce its Seattle-Atlanta route to once daily.
The new flights also continue Alaska Air's growth at Portland during the past year. The carrier has added new routes to Bozeman, Mont., Santa Barbara, Calif., Pasco, Wash., Kauai, Hawaii, and Washington, D.C.'s Reagan National Airport. Alaska plans to add nonstop flights between Portland and Fairbanks, Alaska, on June 9.
Alaska Air is offering double frequent-flier miles on Portland-Atlanta flights for travel between Aug. 26 and Oct. 31, and on Portland-Dallas flights from Sept. 16 through Oct. 31, 2013. To qualify, customers must register at Find Airline Tickets, Low Airfares & Discount Flights - Alaska Airlines before their first qualifying flight.
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05-07-2013, 11:35 AM
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I hear what your saying I just don't see it that way. I don't like big rj's any more than the next guy but they have been held to 76 seats for a long time. Hence why I barked at his reference.
When I was at Mesaba we flew Avro rj85's for NWA.
BAe 146-200 and Avro RJ85
The 146-200 features a 2.41 m (7 ft 11 in) fuselage extension and reduced cost per seat mile. The -200 first flew in August 1982 and entered service six months later. The RJ85, the first RJ development of the BAe 146 family, features an improved cabin and the more efficient LF 507 engines. Deliveries of the RJ85 began in April 1993. The RJ85 seats up to 112 passengers.
That was 16 years ago. Sorry I thought we were talking about something new that wasn't from almost two decades ago. They flew with 76 seats back then.....just like the smaller cabin longer range equivalents do now.
I also think the MTOW was about 10,000 lbs heavier than the ones we have now, although we do have more of them, which isn't good in itself.
I am glad that we are getting 88, new to us, 107 seat(ish) aircraft to fly.
The Boeing 717 is a twin-engine, single-aisle jet airliner, developed for the 100-seat market. The airliner was designed and marketed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD-95, a third-generation derivative of the DC-9. Capable of seating of up to 117 passengers, the 717 has design range of 2,060 nautical miles (3,820 km). The aircraft is powered by two Rolls-Royce BR715 turbofan engines.
I guess we should call those 117 seat planes though.
For my history of going back 40 years and referencing NWA, the smallest they flew, I believe since I was born, was the DC-9-10, seated to 78 seats? but we should call that....a 90 seat plane?
Capacity Flightcrew of two.
10 - Seating for 80 in a single class at five abreast and 86cm (34in) pitch. Max seating for 90.
When I was at Mesaba we flew Avro rj85's for NWA.
BAe 146-200 and Avro RJ85
The 146-200 features a 2.41 m (7 ft 11 in) fuselage extension and reduced cost per seat mile. The -200 first flew in August 1982 and entered service six months later. The RJ85, the first RJ development of the BAe 146 family, features an improved cabin and the more efficient LF 507 engines. Deliveries of the RJ85 began in April 1993. The RJ85 seats up to 112 passengers.
That was 16 years ago. Sorry I thought we were talking about something new that wasn't from almost two decades ago. They flew with 76 seats back then.....just like the smaller cabin longer range equivalents do now.
I also think the MTOW was about 10,000 lbs heavier than the ones we have now, although we do have more of them, which isn't good in itself.
I am glad that we are getting 88, new to us, 107 seat(ish) aircraft to fly.
The Boeing 717 is a twin-engine, single-aisle jet airliner, developed for the 100-seat market. The airliner was designed and marketed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD-95, a third-generation derivative of the DC-9. Capable of seating of up to 117 passengers, the 717 has design range of 2,060 nautical miles (3,820 km). The aircraft is powered by two Rolls-Royce BR715 turbofan engines.
I guess we should call those 117 seat planes though.
For my history of going back 40 years and referencing NWA, the smallest they flew, I believe since I was born, was the DC-9-10, seated to 78 seats? but we should call that....a 90 seat plane?
Capacity
Flightcrew of two. 10 - Seating for 80 in a single class at five abreast and 86cm (34in) pitch. Max seating for 90.
05-07-2013, 11:36 AM
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and add stopping the outsourcing of large 157-181 seat 737s.
/but that's just me
/but that's just me
05-07-2013, 11:37 AM
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I hear what your saying I just don't see it that way. I don't like big rj's any more than the next guy but they have been held to 76 seats for a long time. Hence why I barked at his reference.
When I was at Mesaba we flew Avro rj85's for NWA.
BAe 146-200 and Avro RJ85
The 146-200 features a 2.41 m (7 ft 11 in) fuselage extension and reduced cost per seat mile. The -200 first flew in August 1982 and entered service six months later. The RJ85, the first RJ development of the BAe 146 family, features an improved cabin and the more efficient LF 507 engines. Deliveries of the RJ85 began in April 1993. The RJ85 seats up to 112 passengers.
That was 16 years ago. Sorry I thought we were talking about something new that wasn't from almost two decades ago. They flew with 76 seats back then.....just like the smaller cabin longer range equivalents do now.
I also think the MTOW was about 10,000 lbs heavier than the ones we have now, although we do have more of them, which isn't good in itself.
I am glad that we are getting 88, new to us, 107 seat(ish) aircraft to fly.
The Boeing 717 is a twin-engine, single-aisle jet airliner, developed for the 100-seat market. The airliner was designed and marketed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD-95, a third-generation derivative of the DC-9. Capable of seating of up to 117 passengers, the 717 has design range of 2,060 nautical miles (3,820 km). The aircraft is powered by two Rolls-Royce BR715 turbofan engines.
I guess we should call those 117 seat planes though.
For my history of going back 40 years and referencing NWA, the smallest they flew, I believe since I was born, was the DC-9-10, seated to 78 seats? but we should call that....a 90 seat plane?
Capacity Flightcrew of two.
10 - Seating for 80 in a single class at five abreast and 86cm (34in) pitch. Max seating for 90.
When I was at Mesaba we flew Avro rj85's for NWA.
BAe 146-200 and Avro RJ85
The 146-200 features a 2.41 m (7 ft 11 in) fuselage extension and reduced cost per seat mile. The -200 first flew in August 1982 and entered service six months later. The RJ85, the first RJ development of the BAe 146 family, features an improved cabin and the more efficient LF 507 engines. Deliveries of the RJ85 began in April 1993. The RJ85 seats up to 112 passengers.
That was 16 years ago. Sorry I thought we were talking about something new that wasn't from almost two decades ago. They flew with 76 seats back then.....just like the smaller cabin longer range equivalents do now.
I also think the MTOW was about 10,000 lbs heavier than the ones we have now, although we do have more of them, which isn't good in itself.
I am glad that we are getting 88, new to us, 107 seat(ish) aircraft to fly.
The Boeing 717 is a twin-engine, single-aisle jet airliner, developed for the 100-seat market. The airliner was designed and marketed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD-95, a third-generation derivative of the DC-9. Capable of seating of up to 117 passengers, the 717 has design range of 2,060 nautical miles (3,820 km). The aircraft is powered by two Rolls-Royce BR715 turbofan engines.
I guess we should call those 117 seat planes though.
For my history of going back 40 years and referencing NWA, the smallest they flew, I believe since I was born, was the DC-9-10, seated to 78 seats? but we should call that....a 90 seat plane?
Capacity
Flightcrew of two. 10 - Seating for 80 in a single class at five abreast and 86cm (34in) pitch. Max seating for 90.
What you omit is that DAL indicated a desire to reconfig those 76 seat jets with the new "slim line" seats in the last round of negotiations. It would have upped the two-class seat count to at least 82. The seat line has been attempted to be moved, and will again.
05-07-2013, 11:41 AM
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Autonomous aircraft
This is some "Terminator" Skynet stuff!! Kind of nerdy but if your bored with studying for up coming CQ like me...
Vijay Kumar: Robots that fly ... and cooperate - YouTube
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