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In reference to the AeroMexico 762 tailstrike, here are some more details:

Accident: Aeromexico B762 at Madrid on Apr 16th 2013, tail strike on takeoff

brakechatter

Done deal according to schoolhouse

biigD

All I know is the -80 wouldn't care. It wouldn't give a s ***t. All it'd say is "Stop it, stupid!"

forgot to bid

Hopefully none. I don't know what the NTSB went through in their investigation to draw their conclusions but they cited it as contributing. But I agree, hopefully none.

But I think the gist of what Carl was talking about is what happens when or if a training program goes unintentionally outside the boundaries of what can be done. I remember reading a good article (which I cannot find on google yet) as the accident investigation went on that explained how all of this full rudder reversal stuff was known back in the 50s with the new USAF bombers (I want to say it mentioned B47s). It just forgotten over time and I think the notion that below Va you're free to do whatever you want crept in but of course this didn't apply to rudder reversal. As the article said that was known and taught then but over the decades just forgotten.

To Carl's point before you throw out a piloting procedure for pilots to use it needs to be vetted for the aircraft beyond just whether it worked in the sim. We've seen that at other times, notably after 9/11 when I remember the use aggressive maneuvers to knock them down or what have you, which manufacturers quickly said "uh, no."

forgot to bid

On taxi out, I've noticed the Captains doing full checks of the rudder travel to let the airplane know the Captain is there. Kind of like a cowboy spurring a horse just cuz.

Too Tall

Any more details like delivery date?

firstmob

New, used or info on delivery schedule

PinnacleFO

I bet it involves delta trading in a bunch of our crj 200s to airbus

firstmob

I sure hope so.

Imapilot2

Well, I say its a 757 replacement and 757-200 in general size, so 757 pay.