Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-02-2013, 03:41 PM
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I don't understand the "no credit" portion of this... how can you fly a trip with actual block time, and NOT get credit from the company and FAA for the trip? Am I not understanding what "credit" means here? What's the purpose of this no-credit, how does it help the company, or us? Can't understand it...
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I have no idea if it is tracked for FAR limits.
05-02-2013, 04:35 PM
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Here is what struck me.
First, is he doing anything against ALPA National's policies? No, he isn't employed by ALPA National. He is an independent contractor who was recommended by ALPA National.
Second, is he doing anything that would violate DALPA's policies? Probably not. He isn't a current MEC administrator. He isn't on the LEC. If he receives any trip drops for this business, then it would require some very serious examination. To date, there haven't been any allegations of DALPA trip drops.
Third, is his business in violation of any Delta employment policies? Maybe. This is a really grey area. My personal opinion is the Company might not be too thrilled to discover his "side" business is helping two of their competitors.
He has expertise to sell. I just hope his activities don't get him into trouble with Delta. They could.
If Delta has a problem with this consulting, DALPA and ALPA will have to let him hang out to dry. It's a independent consulting business.
First, is he doing anything against ALPA National's policies? No, he isn't employed by ALPA National. He is an independent contractor who was recommended by ALPA National.
Second, is he doing anything that would violate DALPA's policies? Probably not. He isn't a current MEC administrator. He isn't on the LEC. If he receives any trip drops for this business, then it would require some very serious examination. To date, there haven't been any allegations of DALPA trip drops.
Third, is his business in violation of any Delta employment policies? Maybe. This is a really grey area. My personal opinion is the Company might not be too thrilled to discover his "side" business is helping two of their competitors.
He has expertise to sell. I just hope his activities don't get him into trouble with Delta. They could.
If Delta has a problem with this consulting, DALPA and ALPA will have to let him hang out to dry. It's a independent consulting business.
05-02-2013, 05:04 PM
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And I doubt he's getting ALPA dropped to help UAL. Has anyone checked the policy manual?
05-02-2013, 05:04 PM
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The butthurt some guys have because someone figured out how to make mo' money then themselves.
05-02-2013, 06:15 PM
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Yes, at slow airspeeds, Dutch Roll can be even more critical because the yaw motion used to induce Dutch Roll results in one wing moving forward while the other wing is moving aft. At slow airspeeds, the wing that's moving aft will stall while the other wing is at or near L/D max. When that's happens, the roll rate becomes extremely fast until you unload the airplane.
At slow speeds (all the way up to stall), the ailerons give you all the roll rate you need for this recovery technique. Those few sim instructors at American who were advocating this technique came from the fighter world, specifically the F-4 which (I'm told) had a significant adverse yaw characteristic when ailerons were used at low speeds. This technique was wholly inappropriate for a swept wing airliner that has no adverse yaw issues, but is very vulnerable to Dutch Roll. That's why as far as I know, that technique has been completely discredited by the NTSB and the manufacturers.
Carl
At slow speeds (all the way up to stall), the ailerons give you all the roll rate you need for this recovery technique. Those few sim instructors at American who were advocating this technique came from the fighter world, specifically the F-4 which (I'm told) had a significant adverse yaw characteristic when ailerons were used at low speeds. This technique was wholly inappropriate for a swept wing airliner that has no adverse yaw issues, but is very vulnerable to Dutch Roll. That's why as far as I know, that technique has been completely discredited by the NTSB and the manufacturers.
Carl
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05-02-2013, 07:07 PM
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05-02-2013, 09:19 PM
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Alaska Air connects Portland hub to Atlanta, DFW
That's nice of them to feed our largest hub. Now we can cut back some more. Or maybe we will fight for this route...by placing some of those fancy new 76 RJ's waiting for delivery on it.
That's nice of them to feed our largest hub. Now we can cut back some more. Or maybe we will fight for this route...by placing some of those fancy new 76 RJ's waiting for delivery on it.
05-03-2013, 12:25 AM
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Alaska Air connects Portland hub to Atlanta, DFW
That's nice of them to feed our largest hub. Now we can cut back some more. Or maybe we will fight for this route...by placing some of those fancy new 76 RJ's waiting for delivery on it.
That's nice of them to feed our largest hub. Now we can cut back some more. Or maybe we will fight for this route...by placing some of those fancy new 76 RJ's waiting for delivery on it.
Agreed, however - ALK needs to mind their own business. Or at least politely suggest to their passengers that they give us their business.
This will be a great 737-900ER route someday.
05-03-2013, 04:27 AM
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BISHKEK | Fri May 3, 2013 7:41am
(Reuters) - A U.S. military refueling plane caught fire in mid air and crashed near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan on Friday, Kyrgyzstan's Emergencies Ministry said.
The aircraft took off from the U.S. military transit center at Kyrgyzstan's Manas airport, which U.S. forces maintain for operations in Afghanistan, the Interfax news agency reported.
The plane, used for inflight refueling, disappeared from radar screens at 3.10 p.m. (0910 GMT), as it flew near the Kyrgyz village of Chaldovar, the ministry said.
"(The plane) caught fire in the air and crashed," said an official responsible for the southern Kyrgyz province of Chuisk, where Chaldovar is located.
Officials did not say how many people were on board and staff at the U.S. transit center declined to comment.
The Manas base is used to transport U.S. personnel in and out of Afghanistan and has been used by other international forces fighting in the country.
U.S. military plane crashes near Kyrgyz-Kazakh border | Reuters
(Reuters) - A U.S. military refueling plane caught fire in mid air and crashed near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan on Friday, Kyrgyzstan's Emergencies Ministry said.
The aircraft took off from the U.S. military transit center at Kyrgyzstan's Manas airport, which U.S. forces maintain for operations in Afghanistan, the Interfax news agency reported.
The plane, used for inflight refueling, disappeared from radar screens at 3.10 p.m. (0910 GMT), as it flew near the Kyrgyz village of Chaldovar, the ministry said.
"(The plane) caught fire in the air and crashed," said an official responsible for the southern Kyrgyz province of Chuisk, where Chaldovar is located.
Officials did not say how many people were on board and staff at the U.S. transit center declined to comment.
The Manas base is used to transport U.S. personnel in and out of Afghanistan and has been used by other international forces fighting in the country.
U.S. military plane crashes near Kyrgyz-Kazakh border | Reuters
05-03-2013, 05:15 AM
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BISHKEK | Fri May 3, 2013 7:41am
(Reuters) - A U.S. military refueling plane caught fire in mid air and crashed near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan on Friday, Kyrgyzstan's Emergencies Ministry said.
The aircraft took off from the U.S. military transit center at Kyrgyzstan's Manas airport, which U.S. forces maintain for operations in Afghanistan, the Interfax news agency reported.
The plane, used for inflight refueling, disappeared from radar screens at 3.10 p.m. (0910 GMT), as it flew near the Kyrgyz village of Chaldovar, the ministry said.
"(The plane) caught fire in the air and crashed," said an official responsible for the southern Kyrgyz province of Chuisk, where Chaldovar is located.
Officials did not say how many people were on board and staff at the U.S. transit center declined to comment.
The Manas base is used to transport U.S. personnel in and out of Afghanistan and has been used by other international forces fighting in the country.
U.S. military plane crashes near Kyrgyz-Kazakh border | Reuters
(Reuters) - A U.S. military refueling plane caught fire in mid air and crashed near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan on Friday, Kyrgyzstan's Emergencies Ministry said.
The aircraft took off from the U.S. military transit center at Kyrgyzstan's Manas airport, which U.S. forces maintain for operations in Afghanistan, the Interfax news agency reported.
The plane, used for inflight refueling, disappeared from radar screens at 3.10 p.m. (0910 GMT), as it flew near the Kyrgyz village of Chaldovar, the ministry said.
"(The plane) caught fire in the air and crashed," said an official responsible for the southern Kyrgyz province of Chuisk, where Chaldovar is located.
Officials did not say how many people were on board and staff at the U.S. transit center declined to comment.
The Manas base is used to transport U.S. personnel in and out of Afghanistan and has been used by other international forces fighting in the country.
U.S. military plane crashes near Kyrgyz-Kazakh border | Reuters
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