Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-24-2013, 07:42 AM
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04-24-2013, 08:37 AM
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04-24-2013, 08:40 AM
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20 per month from Compass
9 per month from Mesaba
??? per month from Pinnacle
These are all before off-the-street. It should pretty much fill any classes for the first few years.
500/year = 40 per month (Don't forget Delta is shrinking).
Where do you guys see room for off-the-street hiring?
9 per month from Mesaba
??? per month from Pinnacle
These are all before off-the-street. It should pretty much fill any classes for the first few years.
500/year = 40 per month (Don't forget Delta is shrinking).
Where do you guys see room for off-the-street hiring?
So the last 5-6 months of hiring would be zero CPZ flows. While there would continue to be former Mesaba flows at 9 a month (I think that would continue) that supply line would be exhausted in about a year.
If we do see sustained hiring along the numbers people are implying...60 a month for the first half of the year...that leaves half of each class zero CPZ/Mesaba flows for the first half of the year and the second only 9 Mesaba flows per month. DL could also run multipile classes per month, so if there was a class of 60 on the 1st and a class of 60 on the 2nd through the 31st, out of 120 only a total of 29 CPZ/Mesaba flows would go.
Now there is the variable of the Pinnacle flows but I forget the details of that, but the CPZ/Mesaba flows are the bulk of the flows anyway and they tap out quick and end one of them ends entirely after about a year of hiring.
IOW, plenty of room for "off the streeters" at DL, from the beginning of hiring onward.
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04-24-2013, 08:43 AM
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04-24-2013, 08:46 AM
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I have been asking this forum about this issue. DAL has no serious wb orders. Additionally, DL does not have a robust wb fleet capable of seriously competing on a global stage. As we sit today our global mobility (if you will) is supported by our robust JVs with foreign carriers. Please...please prove me wrong. If DAL came out tomorrow and announced a wb order, it would have to be huge to be considered a serious order. Any small order is essentially a replacement order for our aging fleet.
If we got 10-15 near term as is rumored, they could all very well be growth. As you mentioned DL is anemic in that area. Likewise if we placed a jaw dropping middle east style order, all that could be replacement for our entire ER fleet on a negative pilot block hour basis, plus replacing the 777-200's on a negative basis, and maybe even replace the whales as well, and still look like a pretty big order on paper.
IOW I think a small growth order is very possible. Likely? My Spidey sense says no, no growth ever; not allowed! But if you take half a step back and look at things objectively, another dozen or two actually does make sense.
04-24-2013, 08:47 AM
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04-24-2013, 08:51 AM
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Maybe, although not every order has to be industry headlining "Heros of Farnsborough" end of year clearance super sale events. A smaller order may not mean replacement only, and a larger order may not mean growth.
If we got 10-15 near term as is rumored, they could all very well be growth. As you mentioned DL is anemic in that area. Likewise if we placed a jaw dropping middle east style order, all that could be replacement for our entire ER fleet on a negative pilot block hour basis, plus replacing the 777-200's on a negative basis, and maybe even replace the whales as well, and still look like a pretty big order on paper.
IOW I think a small growth order is very possible. Likely? My Spidey sense says no, no growth ever; not allowed! But if you take half a step back and look at things objectively, another dozen or two actually does make sense.
If we got 10-15 near term as is rumored, they could all very well be growth. As you mentioned DL is anemic in that area. Likewise if we placed a jaw dropping middle east style order, all that could be replacement for our entire ER fleet on a negative pilot block hour basis, plus replacing the 777-200's on a negative basis, and maybe even replace the whales as well, and still look like a pretty big order on paper.
IOW I think a small growth order is very possible. Likely? My Spidey sense says no, no growth ever; not allowed! But if you take half a step back and look at things objectively, another dozen or two actually does make sense.
Exactly.
Just like the big 737-900 order...
Great...except they are going to replace the 757's, which pay more than the 737's!
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