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Old 04-19-2013, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Carl;
Point of clarification.

ALPA has not endorsed any candidate since Clinton. Prater supported Obama for his first term run, but not ALPA.
You sure about that?


ALPA News Release

May 25, 2004 ALPA Endorses Kerry
WASHINGTON, D.C.---The Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), the union that represents most of the nation’s airline pilots, has endorsed John Kerry for president. The union’s Executive Board voted unanimously to endorse the presumptive Democratic nominee at a meeting today in Washington.
"The evidence is clear that President Bush’s record adds up to an unending string of actions that have hurt pilots, other working Americans, and the unions that represent them. It is time for a change," said Capt. Duane E. Woerth, president of ALPA, after the vote was announced. Reached on the campaign trail, Senator Kerry placed a call to the pilots, thanking them for their endorsement.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
Really? I'm curious ACL, where?
LAX Long hotel is showing 255 a night the same days as the MEC meeting is

NYC Long is 303 a night on the same days.


FYI The MEC hotel is 303 as well. Same days.

Those are domestic. I did not even look at MIA, SEA, PDX, ORD, etc. Just to comparable cities. You wanna see expensive hotels much above this, look overseas almost anywhere. LOS, ACC, South America, Asia, Most of Europe. We get a volume discount, but not what you would assume.

Lets not forget that either half of the rooms or all of the conference rooms will be comped.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
You sure about that?


ALPA News Release

May 25, 2004 ALPA Endorses Kerry
WASHINGTON, D.C.---The Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), the union that represents most of the nation’s airline pilots, has endorsed John Kerry for president. The union’s Executive Board voted unanimously to endorse the presumptive Democratic nominee at a meeting today in Washington.
"The evidence is clear that President Bush’s record adds up to an unending string of actions that have hurt pilots, other working Americans, and the unions that represent them. It is time for a change," said Capt. Duane E. Woerth, president of ALPA, after the vote was announced. Reached on the campaign trail, Senator Kerry placed a call to the pilots, thanking them for their endorsement.
Fine Kerry, nine years ago. Did ALPA endorse Obama in 2008? 2012?

Also, thank you for the correction. I mean that. I thought it was Clinton, and totally forgot about Kerry!
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
45 bucks a month is cheap insurance if it allows me to earn a few million in my career.
"Cheap insurance." Yes, it's cheap...because it's worthless.

If you can guarantee the PAC will get the results you imply it will, I'm on board.

Until then, I'll stick to lottery tickets. Chances of winning are far higher there.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
Really? I'm curious ACL, where?
I had a scheduled layover in MIA at the Conrad two weeks ago... Kayak showed that room for $399 and the Sofitel Paris is $617...... When I looked it up "just for fun".
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ball Breaker
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Those at the top remained at the top for an additional 5 years when the music stopped playing.
Not ALPAs fault age 65 happened. It was a done deal and throwing PAC money at the losing side of age discrimination lawsuits would have been wasteful. Not happy about it either but at least it lasted as long as it did and those who retired couldn't come back.
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
"Cheap insurance." Yes, it's cheap...because it's worthless.

If you can guarantee the PAC will get the results you imply it will, I'm on board.

Until then, I'll stick to lottery tickets. Chances of winning are far higher there.
Since you feel that way make sure you do a few other things. You can start by not jumpseating. You can add imputed value to your non rev travel and give the government more money. Don't use the KCM entrances. Those are just a couple of the hundreds of items where they have won that you never hear about. I can send you a list of more things to avoid if you like so you won't feel like a hypocrite.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
LAX Long hotel is showing 255 a night the same days as the MEC meeting is

NYC Long is 303 a night on the same days.


FYI The MEC hotel is 303 as well. Same days.

Those are domestic. I did not even look at MIA, SEA, PDX, ORD, etc. Just to comparable cities. You wanna see expensive hotels much above this, look overseas almost anywhere. LOS, ACC, South America, Asia, Most of Europe. We get a volume discount, but not what you would assume.

Lets not forget that either half of the rooms or all of the conference rooms will be comped.
I was given the Presidential Suite at the Park Plaza in Boston once. That place was bigger than my house!
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Since you feel that way make sure you do a few other things. You can start by not jumpseating. You can add imputed value to your non rev travel and give the government more money. Don't use the KCM entrances. Those are just a couple of the hundreds of items where they have won that you never hear about. I can send you a list of more things to avoid if you like so you won't feel like a hypocrite.
all that is chicken scratch compared to Age 65.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
"Cheap insurance." Yes, it's cheap...because it's worthless.

If you can guarantee the PAC will get the results you imply it will, I'm on board.

Until then, I'll stick to lottery tickets. Chances of winning are far higher there.
How about an ALPA appointed member to the ARC that created the new and improved FT/DT rules?

The IRA rollover provision that was inserted into the law that allowed hundreds if not thousands of ALPA pilots to get thousands of dollars. Literally MILLIONS of tax dollars back into member's pockets... That isn't "chicken scratch".(I've personally flown with quite a few pilots who recouped north of $20,000 each using the provision that ALPA-PAC pushed....)

The amendment in the continuing resolution on the budget that initially halted the CBP checkpoint in Abu Dhabi.
(The administration directly ignoring Congressional mandate notwithstanding, there is bi-partisan support to fix it, but nothing moves quickly in DC so give it some time.)
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