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Random post here. I was watching that NOVA special on the Russian meteor and they were showing how Russians have an addiction for dash cams for insurance scam and corrupt police. Well these videos throughout Russia have caught some amazing things.
This was a Russian 757 like Tu204 crash last December:
This was a Russian 757 like Tu204 crash last December:
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How do I get onto the ALPA gravy train? I want to "serve" my fellow pilots by consuming steak dinners and the best wine. Where do I apply?
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ALPA is probably, all in all, more fiscally conservative than it has been in it's history. That's the story which should be told here. Ask a corporate pilot if what ALPA spends on a meal is reasonable and they'll tell you it is remarkably frugal. I've seen a few $2,000 bottles of wine and darned if I can tell the difference between that stuff and two buck chuck.
In positions of power and responsibility a high standard of decorum is expected. As such I am not sure that I understand when some of ALPA's Officers, Committee Chairmen and paid Consultants get on the web board belittling, insulting or haranguing their own clients. Generally, the lack of respect starts from the top. ALPA has forgotten who it works for. The membership has responded in kind.
It is entirely appropriate for a member of our union to ask, "where does the money go?"
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Damn what are you guys eating, Ramen noodle and gov't peanut butter? Each time I go the grocery store it's $150....... (not defending the dinner in any way).
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Are these Delta pilots posting here or are their teenage kids posting for them.
When you are required to travel for business, the business pays for it. When you layover in a hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a van to get to the hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a soda pop from the galley Delta pays for it. When you get a crew meal on an international leg, Delta pays for it at the same time they are paying you per diem. When you go to training Delta pays for the hotel, the simulator, your meals. In fact, even if you live in Atlanta Delta still pays for a hotel.
No one forced you to take this job, so you should just shut up and quit complaining and accept anything that is handed to you. Right? Isn't that the next logical step in your argument.
These arguments are laughable. The ALPA President is required to travel and stay in Washington. He needs a place to entertain guests, sorry but that is the way Washington works. ALPA reimburses him for these expenses that are required by his job. They are not extra income. He also leases a car, the exact same car that he drives at home. He is reimbursed for those expenses.
You can turn any of these stupid arguments that you guys bring up here and turn right on their heads and use them against you. Nobody forced you to work for Delta, nobody is forcing you to stay at Delta so shut up or quit. How does that feel?
Grow up.
When you are required to travel for business, the business pays for it. When you layover in a hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a van to get to the hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a soda pop from the galley Delta pays for it. When you get a crew meal on an international leg, Delta pays for it at the same time they are paying you per diem. When you go to training Delta pays for the hotel, the simulator, your meals. In fact, even if you live in Atlanta Delta still pays for a hotel.
No one forced you to take this job, so you should just shut up and quit complaining and accept anything that is handed to you. Right? Isn't that the next logical step in your argument.
These arguments are laughable. The ALPA President is required to travel and stay in Washington. He needs a place to entertain guests, sorry but that is the way Washington works. ALPA reimburses him for these expenses that are required by his job. They are not extra income. He also leases a car, the exact same car that he drives at home. He is reimbursed for those expenses.
You can turn any of these stupid arguments that you guys bring up here and turn right on their heads and use them against you. Nobody forced you to work for Delta, nobody is forcing you to stay at Delta so shut up or quit. How does that feel?
Grow up.
First, when I "layover in a hotel and Delta pays for it "they search for a reasonably priced hotel that meets the criteria established by the company, and both pilot and flight attendant representatives. The hotels are generally reasonably nice properties, but there is a very firm eye on cost.
Who picks the hotels ALPA stays in? Who audits their choices to make sure they are picking reasonably priced hotels?
When I go to training Delta doesn't "pay for my meals". They give me per diem of, I believe, a whopping two dollars and change an hour. It's roughly fifty bucks a day. I pay for my meals out of that per diem. If I choose to eat a nice dinner I have to ante-up out-of pocket.
Why does ALPA pick up the entire tab at a very swanky restaurant? Why don't they give the people at a conference, meeting, etc, per diem of say the average of Delta, United and FedEx? I would very much doubt they would be going to Sardelli's anymore!
In my opinion ALPA has shown complete disrespect for the membership by their profligate spending. It is obscene!
I also find it ironic that you defend the great sacrifices that poor Lee Moak made by having to move to the Washington D.C. area. He CHOSE to run for ALPA president.
What about all the Delta pilots who were MANDATORILY displaced from their bases? Yet they get precious few benefits in terms of travel or relocation, etc. Does Delta reimburse a pilot for a car when he's MANDATORILY displaced to a base hundreds of miles from his previous base? NO! So why should Lee Moak get that freebie, especially when he volunteers for the job? The same goes for housing!
You suggest I should "Grow up".
I suggest ALPA volunteers, or employees, should live no better than their constituents.
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100 votes and this crud is over with!
Are these Delta pilots posting here or are their teenage kids posting for them.
When you are required to travel for business, the business pays for it. When you layover in a hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a van to get to the hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a soda pop from the galley Delta pays for it. When you get a crew meal on an international leg, Delta pays for it at the same time they are paying you per diem. When you go to training Delta pays for the hotel, the simulator, your meals. In fact, even if you live in Atlanta Delta still pays for a hotel.
No one forced you to take this job, so you should just shut up and quit complaining and accept anything that is handed to you. Right? Isn't that the next logical step in your argument.
These arguments are laughable. The ALPA President is required to travel and stay in Washington. He needs a place to entertain guests, sorry but that is the way Washington works. ALPA reimburses him for these expenses that are required by his job. They are not extra income. He also leases a car, the exact same car that he drives at home. He is reimbursed for those expenses.
You can turn any of these stupid arguments that you guys bring up here and turn right on their heads and use them against you. Nobody forced you to work for Delta, nobody is forcing you to stay at Delta so shut up or quit. How does that feel?
Grow up.
When you are required to travel for business, the business pays for it. When you layover in a hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a van to get to the hotel Delta pays for it. When you take a soda pop from the galley Delta pays for it. When you get a crew meal on an international leg, Delta pays for it at the same time they are paying you per diem. When you go to training Delta pays for the hotel, the simulator, your meals. In fact, even if you live in Atlanta Delta still pays for a hotel.
No one forced you to take this job, so you should just shut up and quit complaining and accept anything that is handed to you. Right? Isn't that the next logical step in your argument.
These arguments are laughable. The ALPA President is required to travel and stay in Washington. He needs a place to entertain guests, sorry but that is the way Washington works. ALPA reimburses him for these expenses that are required by his job. They are not extra income. He also leases a car, the exact same car that he drives at home. He is reimbursed for those expenses.
You can turn any of these stupid arguments that you guys bring up here and turn right on their heads and use them against you. Nobody forced you to work for Delta, nobody is forcing you to stay at Delta so shut up or quit. How does that feel?
Grow up.
Lee chose to take the job in Washington. IOW, he chose to commute. I also choose to commute. DAL doesn't pick up the tab for my commuter hotels or meals. It's part of the job.
You can defend ALPA and the Sardelli excess all you want. Your arguements sound very socialist. I'm just going to guess that you never actually were in business. You don't seem to understand that writeoffs are still expenses.
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