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Old 03-31-2013, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The forum represents itself as trying to understand various aspects of the contract, company, faa and how in the end they effect our jobs. The reality is however the forum refuses to acknowledge anything if they can't cast blame on someone for whatever they are discussing.
You're part of "the forum" too.
I think we have a healthy diversity of opinions here.

We certainly have a contingent who want "more" and are disappointed with our representation.





There are those who are generally content and supportive of "constructive engagement".





But both sides want the company to do well.

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Old 03-31-2013, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company does not at this point plan in engaging the union in talks to modify the contract to the new FAR. They intend to operate under the current contract. They have felt that past mid contract talks have heavily favored the union in actual costs and they will take any hits the new rule creates.
So what you're saying is "constructive engagement" isn't working????
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright
I think FAR 117 will benefit us several ways. It will have a positive impact on our manning, it will level the competitive playing field by forcing many carriers to come up to what we already had in our contract and hopefully, it will cause DAL to reconsider the operational and economical benefits of Type 1 rest facilities on international aircraft.

Depending on your point of view I do think there is a downside. The increased rest requirements may mean more days at work.

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I agree, and think this is what may benefit DAL Pilots the most in the long run regarding the new FTDT rules, although the benefit will be indirect. While the new rules may not dramatically affect DAL, the bottom feeders, with minimal contractually protections above the FARs will take a big hit.

It may take a while for this to play out but I think this may help to minimize any staffing efficiencies that the bottom feeders now enjoy, and force more of the competition between airlines into non labor costs, service, network etc.

Note - Bottom feeders will always have some $$$ advantage vis-a-vis labor in both staffing and compensation, but the new FTDT rules may somewhat limit how big that advantage can be.

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Old 03-31-2013, 07:55 AM
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:16 AM
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:49 AM
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The Easter Bunny dropped some Greenslips for a handful of 88B's today!
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:13 AM
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WARNING!!!.....Don't Eat The Brown Eggs That The Easter Bunny Left In The Yard!!!!.....SPALDING!!!! NOOOOOOO!!!
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:08 PM
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:48 PM
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That Louisville player's leg snapped! A compound fracture! OUCH!!!!
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That Louisville player's leg snapped! A compound fracture! OUCH!!!!

Dude, that was nasty........ My wife can't keep her eyes off a train wreck. She had to go back and look at it. Twice............


Hopefully that young man will have a full recovery. He has to be devastated and in some serious pain

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