Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-30-2013, 05:03 AM
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All this talk of Short Call, how about a longer call out window for long call? Are their detriments to extending the call to say 18 or 24 hours? With a slight extension in the call out time, I think a majority could easily sit long call at home without risk of getting burnt.
03-30-2013, 05:06 AM
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Can you expand on that a little?
My recollection is that we had to be available twice a day for a brief window of SC (I think 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the evening), but I wasn't in an international category at that time. Then again, in international categories, as they stood then, you could pretty much plan your sleep and your activities to coincide with a slew of predictable departures within a fairly narrow time window. Assuming you flew at all: there was a time when Reserves were used for contingencies, not as unscheduled lineholders. How much would you actually fly, in those days?
Perhaps you could more precisely describe those circumstances where you sat 24-hr SC, six days a week, and were called out frequently, at very different hours of the day, at Delta? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.
My recollection is that we had to be available twice a day for a brief window of SC (I think 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the evening), but I wasn't in an international category at that time. Then again, in international categories, as they stood then, you could pretty much plan your sleep and your activities to coincide with a slew of predictable departures within a fairly narrow time window. Assuming you flew at all: there was a time when Reserves were used for contingencies, not as unscheduled lineholders. How much would you actually fly, in those days?
Perhaps you could more precisely describe those circumstances where you sat 24-hr SC, six days a week, and were called out frequently, at very different hours of the day, at Delta? I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just asking.
03-30-2013, 05:11 AM
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Real question here. Saw another trip go out as "reserve only". How is this legal under the RUO? Also, using ATL reserve pilots to cover Msp trips? Shouldn't there have been a green slip, white slip or at least using in base reserves for trip coverage. This has always seemed fishy to me. Check out ATL M88B 147 for today and help me figure out where I am wrong pls.
03-30-2013, 05:58 AM
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When I was hired reserve was 19/20 days a month. It was a 2 hour callout all the time. Essentially 24 hour short call all month. Sometime after that we went to the window system. It may have been the 91 contract. The windows were 6 hours a day. Normally 8 to noon and 5 to 7 pm in my category. You were obligated for short call in the windows. You were on long call outside the windows. I don't remember how many hours you had to report from long call. How much we flew was just like today. It varied with staffing. I do recall that I could often fill up before the end of the month and get a few extra days off.
03-30-2013, 06:00 AM
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All this talk of Short Call, how about a longer call out window for long call? Are their detriments to extending the call to say 18 or 24 hours? With a slight extension in the call out time, I think a majority could easily sit long call at home without risk of getting burnt.
03-30-2013, 06:02 AM
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That's the way it was at NWA when I was hired in '98 except it was only 18 days a month. I'm normally an early riser so I would usually be up by 6:00 am, run errands or work out and be up all day, and then occaisionally get called out for a trip at 6 pm for one of those "illegals" with a really short layover that gets back early in the morning. Don't recall when they started the RAP windows, but it was after I was able to hold a line on the DC-9.
03-30-2013, 06:03 AM
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I do remember carrying a beeper as part of daily wear{ I told the chicks I was a Dr.}except for three "golden X days." So things must be better than that now?
03-30-2013, 06:37 AM
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HAPPY EASTER!!!
03-30-2013, 07:03 AM
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All of us make mistakes, every single one of us! Yet to listen to the ALPA spokesmen they're perfect. They have never admitted when they have screwed up (and despite attempts at revisionist history, they have made mistakes).
For me, ALPA would have a whole lot more credibility if they were honest with us.
03-30-2013, 07:17 AM
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Actually it has, considering several people here have been elected reps. There is certainly some influence that comes from the exchange and discussion of ideas, and those that took that outside of the intertoobz world have made a difference. I actively participate outside of forum world, some don't.
How's the MIL leave count? Still right around 200?
MIL dropped again. 5, maybe 10 numbers. Its more around 198 now
The category counts in general from April to May were bizarre - considering we gained a pilot from the February to the March seniority list. But we have real live retirements this month!
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