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Whitlow is to 16 hrs from the start of duty, FAR117 will not be. It will be 14 hrs of SC from the start of SC. It is not max duty, just max SC. If I recall correctly, 22 hrs from the start of SC is the limit on block out after a call out.
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sad, but that was my first reaction also ![Big Grin](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
There are a lot of moving pieces to the operation and it's really amazing how well it actually works. Well over 90% of the time everything goes as planned.
Generally it's the unexpected things that throw a monkey-wrench into the operation. It's been my experience that when that happens most Delta people pick up the slack and "mask" the problem by making everything work out anyways...
Operational Excellence memo wants us to stop "masking" the problems and let the data speak. The problem is a lot of what we do at work is "masking" the operation's inefficiencies...
Where is the cutoff for when to "mask" and when to just go at "normal speed?"
When some of the AA pilots stopped "masking" issues caused by other departments what were the results?
Again, I want Delta to run as well as the "European Train system" (maybe minus the Italian
) but I don't think Flight Ops is the department in need of significant improvement...
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There are a lot of moving pieces to the operation and it's really amazing how well it actually works. Well over 90% of the time everything goes as planned.
Generally it's the unexpected things that throw a monkey-wrench into the operation. It's been my experience that when that happens most Delta people pick up the slack and "mask" the problem by making everything work out anyways...
- What's the metric for Panasonic techs deciding that 45 minutes before departure is a good time to set up a ladder in the aisle and pull the ceiling panels to install new IFE boxes?
- What's the metric for the pax who "has to pee" right at departure preventing the "cabin ready for departure" call?
- Is the ramp congestion in the ATL caused by making a 90-degree push or by nobody interested enough to be ready to marshal in the jet as it pulls up to the gate as scheduled?
Operational Excellence memo wants us to stop "masking" the problems and let the data speak. The problem is a lot of what we do at work is "masking" the operation's inefficiencies...
Where is the cutoff for when to "mask" and when to just go at "normal speed?"
When some of the AA pilots stopped "masking" issues caused by other departments what were the results?
Again, I want Delta to run as well as the "European Train system" (maybe minus the Italian
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You have a point. You need to take notice of the operation though. I just flew a four day that was in and out of ATL a bunch. Never stopped once on the way in to the gate. Oh, guess what that transponder on thing until block it? Yep it measures how many times you stop and how long at each stop on the way in to the gate. It also logs the time the transponder stopped reporting to for another block in metric that is not measured via acars.
Its all Big Data. I believe ACL and a few others have hinted at this here at DAL. Trust me, its here and its gonna be huge.
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George,
An excellent post!
You're a pretty well-informed guy and I'm guessing you saw the email that circulated last fall from an AA First Officer...
(For those who didn't read it: This First Officer, and the Captain he was flying with, did everything required by their job, but not one iota more. This email detailed how rapidly dysfunctional the operation became when pilots didn't step up and do what's necessary to keep things flowing. It was hugely ugly.)
When I read that email I thought of Delta's own operation and of all the things we do, on a daily basis, to keep the operation flowing relatively smoothly and mostly on time.
I firmly believe Delta management is blissfully unaware of all that we do. We sure as h*ll don't get thanked for it (much less compensated).
As far as this: "Operational Excellence memo wants us to stop "masking" the problems and let the data speak." My response would be: "Really?"
In theory maintenance write-ups should occur with equal frequency on flights from a hub to an out-station as on the return flights. Yet I'd bet a bunch of money (and I'm not a betting man) that the difference is staggering.
Do they really want us to write up discrepancies where they happen and highlight the gaping holes in maintenance coverage?
An excellent post!
You're a pretty well-informed guy and I'm guessing you saw the email that circulated last fall from an AA First Officer...
(For those who didn't read it: This First Officer, and the Captain he was flying with, did everything required by their job, but not one iota more. This email detailed how rapidly dysfunctional the operation became when pilots didn't step up and do what's necessary to keep things flowing. It was hugely ugly.)
When I read that email I thought of Delta's own operation and of all the things we do, on a daily basis, to keep the operation flowing relatively smoothly and mostly on time.
I firmly believe Delta management is blissfully unaware of all that we do. We sure as h*ll don't get thanked for it (much less compensated).
As far as this: "Operational Excellence memo wants us to stop "masking" the problems and let the data speak." My response would be: "Really?"
In theory maintenance write-ups should occur with equal frequency on flights from a hub to an out-station as on the return flights. Yet I'd bet a bunch of money (and I'm not a betting man) that the difference is staggering.
Do they really want us to write up discrepancies where they happen and highlight the gaping holes in maintenance coverage?
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So question for the conract swami's! If fatigued you are off without pay correct?
So seeing what it would take to get a res guy to fly to just say 70 hours is extremely brutal in some domiciles. Lots of broken trips etc.....
this ALV plus 15 garbage, (which was my biggest heartburn in the TA, Full disclosure I voted YES).
My question is once you get near the ALV and following all FARS you become fatigued (which aint gonna be hard) you have no penaly as far as losing pay or ending up short of hours because you are fatigued right? So that 10 hour Miami turn that they want you to fly at or near the ALV becomes a green slip when a reserve pilot is fatigued to fly?
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So seeing what it would take to get a res guy to fly to just say 70 hours is extremely brutal in some domiciles. Lots of broken trips etc.....
this ALV plus 15 garbage, (which was my biggest heartburn in the TA, Full disclosure I voted YES).
My question is once you get near the ALV and following all FARS you become fatigued (which aint gonna be hard) you have no penaly as far as losing pay or ending up short of hours because you are fatigued right? So that 10 hour Miami turn that they want you to fly at or near the ALV becomes a green slip when a reserve pilot is fatigued to fly?
Just askin
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DP3 Appeal
If you are a "deadzoner", watch out for your blood pressure if you read and understand this appeal thoroughly.
Some of these boys got a $million dollar+ lump sum and are receiving $150,000 annually on top of that and they are still appealing for more.
And every dollar they might get from the PBGC would reduce the tiny amount the rest of us will get.
If you are a "deadzoner", watch out for your blood pressure if you read and understand this appeal thoroughly.
Some of these boys got a $million dollar+ lump sum and are receiving $150,000 annually on top of that and they are still appealing for more.
And every dollar they might get from the PBGC would reduce the tiny amount the rest of us will get.
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That 100 hours of non-verified sick time that sounded like a lot, won't seem like a lot to a reserve guy after flying 90+ hours all summer.
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This has nothing to do with active pilots and will not affect them in any way. It is an attempt to restore (partial or whole) the monthly checks that pilots who were retired at the time of the BK lost. For many of them the non-qualified check was most of their monthly retirement income and it vanished on September 14, 2005 when the company asked the BK judge to stop those payments.
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But do you remember as a kid when you went to go look for a toy in the toy box but couldn't find it but you found all sorts of other stuff that had been missing for a while? The other stuff you find on a google search can rock but you just end up having to sit on it til the time is right.
For instance, you're Columbia. Let me google Columbia Funny. See what happens.
Well, picture 1 is weed in a stop light. No idea.
Picture 2 is a CNN headline that says the "Columbia was traveling 18 times the speed of light." then a quote that says "because [blank] you Einstein." So I can't post it. But that's funny.
Picture 3 is
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huh, what's that about?
I get picture 2, no idea behind picture 1 and 3. And I've got a lot of pics to go through.
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