Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Bar, you have many insightful and informational posts. I like reading your stuff, but you were talking about preplanned bankruptcies at Delta in 1998, with Leo Mullin, 7 years before bankruptcy, and he wasn't even the CEO at the time Delta filed. Delta had its most profitable years ever at the time you said Delta was planning on BK.
In late summer 2007 the author of "Airline Without a Pilot" spoke at a little alumni gathering and told us Richard Anderson was brought on board to merge Delta, all while publically both he and ALPA were saying that he was not brought on board with that intent. It would not surprise me if there isn't a 5, 10 and 20 year plan floating around the 4th floor ... and they hope it will be executed as written.
As for C2K scope failures ... fleet ratios in general make a number of inaccurate assumptions:
- That RJ's "feed" mainline (sometimes true, but far from universally accurate. RJ's are a smaller unit of capacity ... just as a MD90 is to a 757)
- That during a down turn in capacity small jet operations can be cut proportionate to larger gauge aircraft
- That alter ego does not exist
The fact that these airplanes were already on order from late 1999 seems a bit too convenient.
Regardless of whether ALPA knew, or should have known, the point remains the same. Small jets and large jets, regardless of who pilots them, are a part of a single transportation system under the control of Delta management. It makes no more sense to have another group of pilots flying CRJ900's than it does to have another group of pilots flying MD88's or 777's. Arguably the 777 flying is less integrated into Delta's network.
Strategically, job protection provisions will be called on during duress. Just as a wing is designed for an unusual stress, scope can't be predicated on fair weather flying and growth.
I have no idea if ALPA saw the clouds on the horizon in 2000, but management most likely did and had already taken action which preempted their own subsequent bargaining. By not taking the contrarian view, we left ourselves exposed.
The proper answer then, as it always is from a union perspective is unity. We should not be trying to play arbitrage games with other pilots performing our work.
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- When one division of Delta is furloughing and Delta's subsidiaries are junior manning Captains from new hire classes ... that is clear evidence of a scope failure.
- When non union carriers are growing and ALPA carriers are shrinking ... that is clear evidence of a scope failure.
As for the time line:
- Thursday, March 30, 2000
Delta connectors to buy up to 500 jets
BY MIKE BOYER
The Cincinnati Enquirer
Comair and Atlantic Southeast Airlines, the Delta Connection carriers, Wednesday announced the largest regional jet order in history for up to 500 aircraft in the next decade.
- June 21, 2001 ... Contract 2000 signed and block hour ratios established 34% for 2002, 36% 2003, 37% 2004
- 2002 block hour ratio reset to 44 to 48% linking to DAL's operating margins ... thus my "ill afford" comment and while Slowplay probably has the exact numbers, DCI likely was in non compliance before the deal was inked ... DCI carriers were operating in violation of the Delta contract*)
- 2004 Block hour ratio 50% in years DAL's pre tax margin >0%
- 2006 Ratios removed and applied to 76 seat jets only ... percentages peak somewhere in the neighborhood of 51% to 54% ... all small jet orders and options placed in 1999 flew for Delta.
... and if you like conspiracies
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MSP base size – MSP is stable and if anything will grow a little from now on. On a size adjusted basis it is our most profitable hub and is an important part of our network. Mainline MSP will not continue to shrink and go the way of MEM as some on here have been posting.
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MSP base size – MSP is stable and if anything will grow a little from now on. On a size adjusted basis it is our most profitable hub and is an important part of our network. Mainline MSP will not continue to shrink and go the way of MEM as some on here have been posting.
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So the other day someone mentioned Torpedo. Well, I found a Ranger in my fridge which quickly turned into two more Torpedo's. Who says this thread is a waste. Not me!!! Now I need to find that beer app as well. Ahhh 1am, how I love thee.
Btw, the new software on the maddogs actually helped us increase our block time. Agent was so gung ho we closed the door 10 prior. Ground crew shut all cargo doors 7 prior. We couldn't push till 5 prior but we were told to release brakes 7 prior to move a stuck chock. We were officially out at 7 prior. Of course our latency beacon didn't turn on till 1 prior when we were imminently pushing!!
. I may end up getting paid more with the new acars software.
Btw, the new software on the maddogs actually helped us increase our block time. Agent was so gung ho we closed the door 10 prior. Ground crew shut all cargo doors 7 prior. We couldn't push till 5 prior but we were told to release brakes 7 prior to move a stuck chock. We were officially out at 7 prior. Of course our latency beacon didn't turn on till 1 prior when we were imminently pushing!!
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Just had an Airtan jumpseater that has app into Delta. She said that a friend of hers that works HR for them said that employment verifications are being requested by Delta for some of their folks. Maybe hiring is coming sooner than we tink. She seemed to think August...time will tell...
I say myth: busted on this one.
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Did y'all catch the story last week about the leasing company that sold 6 717 airframes to an undisclosed buyer for 17 million.... Was told that there was a possibility that we were going to get one or two 717s early and they were going to be used for training..... If'n we just bought 6 more that could be here ASAP, maybe training may be happening quicker than the Boys of Summer planned. Hhmmmmmm.....
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Ah... get your GSs out if your ATL MD88 B, we're out of pilots again for Friday.
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