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03-27-2013, 07:52 AM
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03-27-2013, 07:54 AM
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Not sure what your asking but, Whitlow applies ONLY to domestic operation under FAR 121.471. It will never apply to any international operation 121.513. So it already applies to the 7ER as long as you are operating a domestic leg.
FAR 117 will replace the above and will effectively eliminate the Whitlow interpretation in January 2014.
I see Bar already answered it
FAR 117 will replace the above and will effectively eliminate the Whitlow interpretation in January 2014.
I see Bar already answered it
03-27-2013, 07:57 AM
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Not sure what your asking but, Whitlow applies ONLY to domestic operation under FAR 121.471. It will never apply to any international operation 121.513. So it already applies to the 7ER as long as you ar operating a domestic leg.
FAR 117 will replace the above and will effectively eliminate the Whitlow interpretation in January 2014.
I see Bar already answered it
FAR 117 will replace the above and will effectively eliminate the Whitlow interpretation in January 2014.
I see Bar already answered it
03-27-2013, 08:08 AM
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03-27-2013, 08:08 AM
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A 40% cut on $100 leaves you with $60
But a 40% raise on $60 only get you to $84.
You'll need a 67% raise to get back the 40% cut
Cheers
George
03-27-2013, 08:09 AM
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I though under the current rules that the 7ER was considered an international category and could therefore ignore Whitlow even when assigning a domestic leg? So if I go on SC at 8am tomorrow in NYC they can't call me at 5PM and give me a leg to LAS but they could give me a redeye to AMS? How did I miss that memo?
They can't ignore Whitlow, but being in the ER category makes you dual-use.
So the first portion of your short call you can do either, and gradually you become illegal for most/all domestic trips, but still good to go for international ops.
Makes no sense. Not legal to go ATL-JAX and layover, perfectly legal for ATL-UIO to fly some of the most challenging operations we have.
03-27-2013, 08:13 AM
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They can't ignore Whitlow, but being in the ER category makes you dual-use.
So the first portion of your short call you can do either, and gradually you become illegal for most/all domestic trips, but still good to go for international ops.
Makes no sense. Not legal to go ATL-JAX and layover, perfectly legal for ATL-UIO to fly some of the most challenging operations we have.
So the first portion of your short call you can do either, and gradually you become illegal for most/all domestic trips, but still good to go for international ops.
Makes no sense. Not legal to go ATL-JAX and layover, perfectly legal for ATL-UIO to fly some of the most challenging operations we have.
03-27-2013, 08:25 AM
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I though under the current rules that the 7ER was considered an international category and could therefore ignore Whitlow even when assigning a domestic leg? So if I go on SC at 8am tomorrow in NYC they can't call me at 5PM and give me a leg to LAS but they could give me a redeye to AMS? How did I miss that memo?
1. 0800-2000=Domestic and International trips**
2. 2001-0800=International trips only
**If you have not been given a "stated and noted(icrew)" 24 hour rest break in the past continuous 7 days then you are only good for International trips.
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03-27-2013, 08:28 AM
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yes...although he only just added the percentages up over the seven years...it is not a 35.8 percent raise. From seven years ago, applying those percentages, it would be an 41.7 percent increase by the seventh year. Not full recovery I know but better than a stick in the eye.
03-27-2013, 08:28 AM
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Not sure what your asking but, Whitlow applies ONLY to domestic operation under FAR 121.471. It will never apply to any international operation 121.513. So it already applies to the 7ER as long as you are operating a domestic leg.
FAR 117 will replace the above and will effectively eliminate the Whitlow interpretation in January 2014.
I see Bar already answered it
FAR 117 will replace the above and will effectively eliminate the Whitlow interpretation in January 2014.
I see Bar already answered it
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