Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-26-2013, 08:26 AM
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What are you doing to improve our position? If it is simply *****ing on an anonymous web board I would guess that it is not going to help much. If you are doing something else I would be interested to know what it is.
03-26-2013, 08:26 AM
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Why don't you just go back to the Alpa forum with all the constructive conversation that happens there...
03-26-2013, 08:27 AM
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Purple,
For the record I want changes for the better also but you also must be realistic about the industry we work in and our direct competitors. We don't exist in a vacuum and have not had any help from our peers anywhere. Even swa. What have they negotiated since the ch11 train started rolling? They are just trying to hang on. I don't see any answers from you just complaints. What have YOU done to better our situation? At least Acl65 put his money where his mouth is. I see on the Alpa board the same *****er and moaners that were there at Nwa, and it's probably safe to assume some are on here. Of those the only one that has ever put himself out there is JF in dtw. While not elected he at least tried. So purple, I ask you what have YOU done? Because *****ing on an anonymous webboard ain't cutting it.
For the record I want changes for the better also but you also must be realistic about the industry we work in and our direct competitors. We don't exist in a vacuum and have not had any help from our peers anywhere. Even swa. What have they negotiated since the ch11 train started rolling? They are just trying to hang on. I don't see any answers from you just complaints. What have YOU done to better our situation? At least Acl65 put his money where his mouth is. I see on the Alpa board the same *****er and moaners that were there at Nwa, and it's probably safe to assume some are on here. Of those the only one that has ever put himself out there is JF in dtw. While not elected he at least tried. So purple, I ask you what have YOU done? Because *****ing on an anonymous webboard ain't cutting it.
03-26-2013, 08:31 AM
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Maybe Imapilot2 sincerely hopes things do get better for everyone. Maybe Imapilot2 has genuinely wished good upon his fellow pilot. Possibly Imapilot2 realizes that when the positive movement starts the 'all about me' types will stop sobbing about how bad things are and forever will be? Perhaps he longs for a day when prosperity floats all the boats and the little girl tears will cease. Imapilot2 may have a dream. A beautiful dream. Dry eyes and clear skies for all. It could happen.
This thread has become quite acidic lately with all the personal attacks. I include myself in that at times, but all in all we are working at one of the better run airlines of today and I know plenty of fellow pilots who would love to have the problems some of our pilots gripe about.
I'm all for raising the bar, but I don't intend on becoming a stubborn, combative cynic in the process.
03-26-2013, 08:44 AM
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nevermind...............
03-26-2013, 08:47 AM
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Sorry Imapilot, but for those of us who for 12 years have watched the company reduce the # of pilots required, always just less than where we sit, we KNOW that we are just one un-voted side-letter away from being furloughed again... just one 757 retirement away... just one 737 being outsourced again to DCI away...
I have no problem with some complaining but really???? The whole "woe is us" routine starts getting old.
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03-26-2013, 09:16 AM
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Here is to you career FO! Those west coast 737's aren't being flown by Delta. Does it matter whether its DCI or Alaska? Waiting for a loud pop from the ATL crowd...
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03-26-2013, 09:21 AM
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03-26-2013, 09:24 AM
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I think this may have been a case of not realizing how the tone might appear to come across. That being said, his point is very valid....we have quite a way to go on toward getting vacation where it should be, IMHO. It's kind of sad that it would take two whole weeks of vacation to get to that point on resv. I guess I'm a glass half-full on this topic--I look at it as to how much resv I have left on my plate in a month when I take a week of vacation--it doesn't add up to much, really.
03-26-2013, 09:42 AM
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Well seeing how our PWA restricts one and allows another does seem to matter. Career fo, jeeze my laziness must be widely known.....
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