Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-25-2013, 08:04 AM
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Not going to offer big discounts? Ha! Good luck with that. Looks to me that the C-Series is already setting itself up for failure.
03-25-2013, 08:45 AM
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80 and FTB,
Yeah, unfortunately I was....Such is life. Missed it by thaaaat much! I should know better by now than to bid so junior on equipment. Finished my TOE on the 19th and found out I was displaced on the 20th.....DOH! That's the bad news. The good news is I get to go back to the 767ER!! I do like the 757/767 plus the ER flying, it's very diverse.
Denny
Yeah, unfortunately I was....Such is life. Missed it by thaaaat much! I should know better by now than to bid so junior on equipment. Finished my TOE on the 19th and found out I was displaced on the 20th.....DOH! That's the bad news. The good news is I get to go back to the 767ER!! I do like the 757/767 plus the ER flying, it's very diverse.
Denny
What a waste. You'll be back, you know you will. Fifi is too quiet and too comfortable. Did you ever get to try the bunk? Wait, never mind.Besides, we have to go back to Caveman (inside story boyz
)Had a great time!! See ya around campus
Ferd
03-25-2013, 08:45 AM
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03-25-2013, 08:49 AM
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03-25-2013, 09:30 AM
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Next up for SWA - Bags Fly...
03-25-2013, 10:07 AM
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On Deltanet, check it out. I know this is just for requirements and not headcount but RA and team are truly getting closer to that 9000 number
TEN
On Deltanet, check it out. I know this is just for requirements and not headcount but RA and team are truly getting closer to that 9000 number
TEN
03-25-2013, 10:12 AM
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That might have been the same MEC guy that came by my house last week. My daughter's cat had a litter of kittens, he took them out in my front yard, buried them up to their necks, and ran over them with my riding lawn mower.
I'm pretty sure he was on FPL at the time!
Good news is that when DPA takes over, they promised to sew the heads back on. And then get age 60 back.
I'm pretty sure he was on FPL at the time!
Good news is that when DPA takes over, they promised to sew the heads back on. And then get age 60 back.
03-25-2013, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by qball 
And you are basing that on what information pray tell?
ATL growing...MSP getting smaller?
ATL apparently has a very lucrative O&D numbers whereas (if you are talking about FLIGHTS and not based employees, I would wager) MSP does not. Believe it or not, it IS about making money, and the current group of execs are intent on doing that very thing, more so than any of the morons that have graced us with their presence in the time I have been here. And I for one do not want us to fly to places where we do not make money. They have been creative, and diligent in attaining their goals. Now, because MSP is apparently in YOUR paradigm of the top 1 places on the planet we should be flying, I am sure they are wrong in their analysis. I don't want MSP to go anywhere either though because all of those guys are senior, and that means more displacements downstream...
My paradigm is purely selfish...the only one leg commute there is for me. That said..my thoughts are not purely about MSP. I am wondering when ATL will reach critical mass if it has not already exceeded that. How much longer can they keep stuffing more stuff in there. I think a good deal of the cutbacks in MSP have as much to do having to deal with the state of Minnesota. The only reason MSP was the hub it was IMO was because NWA headquarters was there. After the merger, it is being relegated to the second tier hub it probably always would have/should have been. There was also a somewhat acrimonious relationship between NWA and the state and a fairly hostile media as well. I'm sure RA is long tired of dealing with that.
Oh, and FWIW, I have heard Mr Anderson say on more than one occasion that he likes DTW because of it's position on the great circle routes to both Asia and Europe.. so it is probably safe.
I would agree with that and DTW gates, etc are laid out better than MSP...but it's still...well... Detroit.
Now Timbo and I are still waiting for that E190 base in MCO... the number 1 tourist destination on planet earth... Of course Virgin insists on flying 2 to 4 747-400s there a few times each week.. and we all know how well they are doing financially, don't we?
Who gets to be the chief pilot?
/rant
Regarding "critical mass" at the ATL. I heard firsthand from an unimpeachable source that the land is available for a 6th strip of asphalt in ATL. (He didn't say whether it was or was not going to be built anytime soon however). So I don't think "critical mass" will hit that place for a long time. For the first 20 years of my career I avoided that place like a Lady Gaga concert. Now that I have been domesticated and every trip starts with a leg to the ATL, I have come to realize how really head and shoulders above everywhere else it really is. It moves both people and airplanes very well. ATC there is very good (unlike DFW or NY) My only problem with it is that the company revolves around hometown procedures there, and if you are not on top of that, you might find yourself a little frustrated. (For example: does anybody have any idea where the metering freq is published and how in the world I am supposed to know when it is in effect???) But other than those kind of nitnoid things, I think it is a pretty good master base.
And you are basing that on what information pray tell?
ATL growing...MSP getting smaller?
ATL apparently has a very lucrative O&D numbers whereas (if you are talking about FLIGHTS and not based employees, I would wager) MSP does not. Believe it or not, it IS about making money, and the current group of execs are intent on doing that very thing, more so than any of the morons that have graced us with their presence in the time I have been here. And I for one do not want us to fly to places where we do not make money. They have been creative, and diligent in attaining their goals. Now, because MSP is apparently in YOUR paradigm of the top 1 places on the planet we should be flying, I am sure they are wrong in their analysis. I don't want MSP to go anywhere either though because all of those guys are senior, and that means more displacements downstream...
My paradigm is purely selfish...the only one leg commute there is for me. That said..my thoughts are not purely about MSP. I am wondering when ATL will reach critical mass if it has not already exceeded that. How much longer can they keep stuffing more stuff in there. I think a good deal of the cutbacks in MSP have as much to do having to deal with the state of Minnesota. The only reason MSP was the hub it was IMO was because NWA headquarters was there. After the merger, it is being relegated to the second tier hub it probably always would have/should have been. There was also a somewhat acrimonious relationship between NWA and the state and a fairly hostile media as well. I'm sure RA is long tired of dealing with that.
Oh, and FWIW, I have heard Mr Anderson say on more than one occasion that he likes DTW because of it's position on the great circle routes to both Asia and Europe.. so it is probably safe.
I would agree with that and DTW gates, etc are laid out better than MSP...but it's still...well... Detroit.
Now Timbo and I are still waiting for that E190 base in MCO... the number 1 tourist destination on planet earth... Of course Virgin insists on flying 2 to 4 747-400s there a few times each week.. and we all know how well they are doing financially, don't we?
Who gets to be the chief pilot?
/rant
Regarding "critical mass" at the ATL. I heard firsthand from an unimpeachable source that the land is available for a 6th strip of asphalt in ATL. (He didn't say whether it was or was not going to be built anytime soon however). So I don't think "critical mass" will hit that place for a long time. For the first 20 years of my career I avoided that place like a Lady Gaga concert. Now that I have been domesticated and every trip starts with a leg to the ATL, I have come to realize how really head and shoulders above everywhere else it really is. It moves both people and airplanes very well. ATC there is very good (unlike DFW or NY) My only problem with it is that the company revolves around hometown procedures there, and if you are not on top of that, you might find yourself a little frustrated. (For example: does anybody have any idea where the metering freq is published and how in the world I am supposed to know when it is in effect???) But other than those kind of nitnoid things, I think it is a pretty good master base.
03-25-2013, 10:21 AM
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03-25-2013, 10:28 AM
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Tsquare, Almost sounded spiteful!
I can tell you that Delta is walking a fine line with the twin cities market. I have lived there my whole life and never seen so many people looking for new travel options. My buddy's company (one of the many fortune 500 companies in the twin cities) requires him to drive to a plant in Omaha, NE. Vs. flying. Also noticed that many of these flights are exclusively large RJ now. Perhaps Delta is placing those planes in the msp market because there is a lack of real competition, I don't have the answer but other airlines are taking notice and starting to poach the msp traveler.
I can tell you that Delta is walking a fine line with the twin cities market. I have lived there my whole life and never seen so many people looking for new travel options. My buddy's company (one of the many fortune 500 companies in the twin cities) requires him to drive to a plant in Omaha, NE. Vs. flying. Also noticed that many of these flights are exclusively large RJ now. Perhaps Delta is placing those planes in the msp market because there is a lack of real competition, I don't have the answer but other airlines are taking notice and starting to poach the msp traveler.
My point was that DAL is going to put assets where they make money, and I applaud them for that. I have had to accept that fact while sitting on MadDog and baby bus jumpseats from MCO to work (and other non-rev destinations) when we used to have widebodies. People in MEM have been trashing NWA (and now DAL) for years because we supposedly gouge them. That is probably true to an extent, and it is the unfortunate other edge of the sword when it comes to having a network carrier located in your hometown. You pay more.. but have more options. The city elders have for years.. in MEM.. been courting SWA and other "low cost carriers" all the while spitting in the face of NWA/DAL at every opportunity. So when we threaten to leave, they wonder why, and only then do they go to ATL to ask what they can do to get us to stay. MSP is probably no different.
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