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Old 03-21-2013, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Since marketing has shrunk the block hours every year that is almost a certainty. The good news is this will be the first year that changes and in the coming years there will be a significant increase in mainline block hours.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
True, but investors aren't going to be real excited by "flat", they want to hear "growth" and I could be wrong, but he said orders for 737-900s and regional jets and deferred the 787 orders.

Doesn't sound to me that Delta is building up with WBs and growing, sounds like he's consolidating.
No, investors ARE excited by "flat" - it means higher RASM and more profits. Richard and Ed have been banging the "capacity restraint" drum for a while, and Wall Street seems to like it - stock is at a 52 week high once again. It's when airlines flood the market with seats that everyone loses money.

Delta won't comment on a widebody order because if they are making one, they are still discussing it with Airbus or Boeing. Don't want your big suppliers knowing what and why you are doing it. (other than talking points).
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
True, but investors aren't going to be real excited by "flat", they want to hear "growth" and I could be wrong, but he said orders for 737-900s and regional jets and deferred the 787 orders.

Doesn't sound to me that Delta is building up with WBs and growing, sounds like he's consolidating.
mmmmmmaybe. He was talking about Capacity being flat, not revenue growth. THAT is what investors care about. If you only produce 10 doughnuts/day, but can sell them for an increasing premium as time goes on, that is a positive. Especially in this industry. There was no way he was going to announce anything on that show. Next time I see him though I am gonna ax him if Maria is hot in person.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
No, investors ARE excited by "flat" - it means higher RASM and more profits. Richard and Ed have been banging the "capacity restraint" drum for a while, and Wall Street seems to like it - stock is at a 52 week high once again. It's when airlines flood the market with seats that everyone loses money.

Delta won't comment on a widebody order because if they are making one, they are still discussing it with Airbus or Boeing. Don't want your big suppliers knowing what and why you are doing it. (other than talking points).
The stock is leading and at a 52 week high, that's good. Airlines are all higher, which is good.

A pretty informative little interview, there's been a few airline CEOs on lately, it's always interesting.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:09 PM
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RA was pretty coy about the rumored 6b widebody order. He did say with a bit of eybrow and grin that we are always "testing the market"... I suppose that means if somebody is giving airplanes away, we're taking them. But overall he seemed to say that barring that, we'd be fine with what we've got for now. The man sure knows his audience. He never missed a beat.. stockholders, gov't regulators and aircraft manufacturers. All right in the crosshairs.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
No, investors ARE excited by "flat" - it means higher RASM and more profits. Richard and Ed have been banging the "capacity restraint" drum for a while, and Wall Street seems to like it - stock is at a 52 week high once again. It's when airlines flood the market with seats that everyone loses money.

Delta won't comment on a widebody order because if they are making one, they are still discussing it with Airbus or Boeing. Don't want your big suppliers knowing what and why you are doing it. (other than talking points).
This is exactly right. Cramer was talking about the airlines on Monday on Mad Money. Whether you like him or not, he made a great point about the industry. He said that now, with 3 big airlines and SWA, the barrier to entry is pretty formidable, and this will allow us to dictate prices as an oligopoly rather than have some start up dictating them. As long as we don't go back to those days, there should be plenty of revenue going forward... I for one am optimistic about where we are and where we are going.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
This is exactly right. Cramer was talking about the airlines on Monday on Mad Money. Whether you like him or not, he made a great point about the industry. He said that now, with 3 big airlines and SWA, the barrier to entry is pretty formidable, and this will allow us to dictate prices as an oligopoly rather than have some start up dictating them. As long as we don't go back to those days, there should be plenty of revenue going forward... I for one am optimistic about where we are and where we are going.
Yep. And remember if he flat out denies something, that means we're going to do it.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:20 PM
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At least until it gets moved to the ATL.
Maybe, but it won't be you ;-)
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Ed's remarks suggest we aren't looking at an order until the end of the decade. Something to consider when the next contract comes up is pay rate increases to mitigate the ongoing stagnation and displacements off the 757's.
You can count on ALPA to take care of that...just be sure and call your rep and put it in the survey.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:27 PM
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Maybe, but it won't be you ;-)
I have zero interest in that or the 777 either one.
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