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Old 03-21-2013, 06:18 AM
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Very nice! UAL has several A350s on order. Looks like it is not a paper airplane anymore. Wouldn't it be nice to have 787s rolling in and a solid order on A350s? UAL has an impressive wb fleet....
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:40 AM
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just a tidbit, it takes over five years of seniority to hold anything west of the Mississippi.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:51 AM
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Hawaiian Airlines Goes Global: Why It Matters

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March 20, 2013 | Comments (2)
Last week, Hawaiian Holdings (NASDAQ: HA ) subsidiary Hawaiian Airlines added yet another new international route from its Honolulu hub: Auckland, New Zealand. Auckland is the seventh new international destination Hawaiian has added in the last two-and-a-half years, following Tokyo, Osaka, Fukuoka, and Sapporo (all in Japan), Seoul, South Korea, and Brisbane, Australia. Hawaiian will also begin service from Honolulu to Sendai, Japan, in June (as part of a triangle route with Sapporo), and plans to begin service to Taipei, Taiwan, in July.
Revenue diversification
By July, Hawaiian will fly to 13 destinations in Asia and Oceania, up from just four in 2010. Adding these international flights has provided significant revenue diversification for Hawaiian; international routes account for 32% of Hawaiian's revenue, and that percentage is growing. Most recently, Hawaiian has been focusing its growth on markets where there is little or no competition. It is the only carrier on the Sapporo and Brisbane to Honolulu routes, and will be the only carrier on its upcoming routes to Sendai and Taipei. Hawaiian is also the only American carrier serving Auckland, and competes only with Air New Zealand on the Auckland-Honolulu route.
Adding routes with no competition has an obvious benefit: It creates pricing power for Hawaiian. Most of the company's new destinations have significant untapped demand for travel to Hawaii, and Hawaiian Airlines should see rising traffic as residents become aware of the new service. Furthermore, Hawaiian's growing international network creates possibilities for connecting passengers traveling between the U.S. mainland and international destinations via the Honolulu hub.
Merger in the future?
Hawaiian's strong and growing international presence makes the company an intriguing merger candidate. American Airlines (NASDAQOTH: AAMRQ ) has been historically weak in Asia; as of this summer it will have just eight routes to four Asian cities (Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing, and Seoul). Merger partner US Airways (NYSE: LCC ) brings nothing to the table: It has never served Asia. Neither of the two carriers have any flights to Oceania, either. As such, Hawaiian could be a future merger target for American. Honolulu is ideally located for connecting traffic between North America and Oceania. While it is not as convenient for connecting traffic between North America and Asia -- for most itineraries it is at least 1000 miles out of the way -- offering free overnight layovers in Honolulu could attract passengers. Moreover, with a market capitalization of approximately $325 million, Hawaiian would be a relatively cheap acquisition.
Alaska Air (NYSE: ALK ) could be another suitor, though this scenario is somewhat less likely, and could run into regulatory issues since the two are the leading carriers from the West Coast to Hawaii. Alaska does not have any international presence, although it has a partnership with Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL ) that gives its customers access to Asia. A combination with Hawaiian would give Alaska a launching pad to introduce its own international service to Asia, the fastest-growing aviation market in the world.
Conclusion
Hawaiian Airlines' increasing international footprint is a key asset for the company. Over the next few years, the focus on international routes that have less competition should boost the company's profit margin. Moreover, this large international presence could also make Hawaiian a desirable takeover target in the next few years.

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If we are going to make a move on Hawaiian I think the time is right now.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
just a tidbit, it takes over five years of seniority to hold anything west of the Mississippi.
Which boggles my mind. Oakland is a junior base for SWA and Fed Ex. SFO is junior for UAL. What gives?? LA you have to cover as many airports as NY and they're farther apart.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:03 AM
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Bring on Hawaiian!, heavies and a small pilot group! Unlike Alaska which brings 1400 pilots that get heavy CA before me and bring none to the table. Booooooo
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Bring on Hawaiian!, heavies and a small pilot group! Unlike Alaska which brings 1400 pilots that get heavy CA before me and bring none to the table. Booooooo
I like the way you think. But, does HI Air yield us the west coast North-South routes & traffic that we need? Not too familiar w/ the west coast metrics, so plz excuse my ignorance in this.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Which boggles my mind. Oakland is a junior base for SWA and Fed Ex. SFO is junior for UAL. What gives?? LA you have to cover as many airports as NY and they're farther apart.
Skywest and Alaska take care of the West. Plenty of juniority there.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
I like the way you think. But, does HI Air yield us the west coast North-South routes & traffic that we need? Not too familiar w/ the west coast metrics, so plz excuse my ignorance in this.

No but it brings, A Hawaiian Base! and 600 pilots with mostly heavies versus 1400 with no heavies. Hopefully we keep expanding doing the work ourselves on the north/south West coast flow instead of bringing on the Alaska pilots to do it. JMO
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Skywest and Alaska take care of the West. Plenty of juniority there.
Based on all the new routes recently announced, apparently they don't.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fartboxflyer
please tell us what a frozen pension pays?
Depends on where you were when the music stopped. For some, it's a nice slice. For others, it won't even be beer money by the time they retire.

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